EAS Button question.

[c93werdna]

Hi first off Im new to the board.
I have a 1993 LWB.

I bought the car and it didnt come with any manuals,
So I am wondering about the EAS buttons on the dash.

(the two arrows and the button in the middle)
I have read basically what the arrows do, but what about that button in the middle? WHere should that be? (depressed or not) im not sure if i should drive the car with it puched in or not pushed in.
One other question.
How can i tell if my EAS has been replaced?
It seems that i have Bilstein shocks installed and some very large springs that i can see.... what was the original equiptment on the car? does nayone know..

thanks in advance, hopefully i will return this car to what it should be and use it for what it was made for.. ill post pics later..
Thanks again.
Andrew.

[Paul Grant]

If you see coil springs and not air bags then your EAS has been replaced and the buttons have been rendered useless. Consider yourself lucky to have been spared the nightmare that was EAS in the Range Rover Classics.

[RageRover]

Ditto on that one Paul, I used to have EAS, as well. It really didn't matter what I had as long as there was some sort of 4x4 suspension under there.

Since there is no use for the EAS buttons on the dash on my 94 LWB with the newer soft dash, I might remove the buttons and see if there is a solid mount in there, which might be used for a adjustable arm to attach a GPS unit or place to hold other electronics while on the trail.

Also on the instrument cluster, my EAS amber light is on cause the whole set of things was disabled, shocks replaced, but the resevoir tank under the driver's side chassis is still there, and of course the buttons. So might be removing the tank as it is in good condition and the buttons and sell them off.

[c93werdna]

awesome! ill post some pics tomorrow just to be sure.
I see big springs... so it looks like it has already been replaced.
Thanks for the help!

[dirtyduk]

Too bad you guys all feel that way,EAS if properly diagnosed is really easy to fix and maintain.
most of the issues start with old dry springs that are a piece of cake to replace.
I had 2 95 LWB's one with 94k the other with 134k and both work perfect.
(just sold one of em today)
anyway you set em up the classics are the best rovers.

And if you still have EAS the center button locks the suspension at normal ride height for towing or what ever.

[Paul Grant]

Yeah, and I had a BRAND new '94 that was in the shop so many times because of EAS failure that I tried to initiate Lemon Law proceedings against Land Rover. Unfortunately, in NYS once you exceed 18K miles the law no longer applies. I hit 18K within the first 9 months of ownership and had to live with the continued failure of the system not to mention the arrogance of the dealership. I became well know down in Latham considering how much time I spent on the phone with LRNA. I used to have Charlie Hughes on speed dial. The EAS in early Range Rovers sucked, end of story. Give me coils any day of the week.

[c93werdna]

I took some pictures of the springs, they are dirty so i dont know what the color of them are, but the shocks seem to be Yellow Bilstein. How long do shock last? Maybe i can just change out the bushings or something to give it a better ride.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/andrew...bum?.dir=/8400

[RageRover]

The springs were already there, the thing that made the truck go up and down was the shocks that are filled with air and depressed to go up and down. Now you obviously have replacement Bilsteins, that should last you a long time, like a good few years or more, worth. This already makes me assume that the compressor assembly was removed from the truck, which I think mounted under the passenger side chassis, and the tank under the driver side chassis. Changing the bushings won't really do anything, I think, but then again never had to, in order to see what difference it would make.

[c93werdna]

I did notice that where my springs are there are hoses that are capped off...hoses about the size of the vacume lines or a little smaller than a gas line...so i guess it has been replaced.

I did notice that under the driver side i saw what seems to be an air tank... its black right?
Its really dirty so i cant read whats on it...

[RageRover]

Originally Posted by c93werdna

I did notice that where my springs are there are hoses that are capped off...hoses about the size of the vacume lines or a little smaller than a gas line...so i guess it has been replaced.

I did notice that under the driver side i saw what seems to be an air tank... its black right?
Its really dirty so i cant read whats on it...

Yup that is the tank for the compressor, is there a compressor in-cased in a box under the passneger side? You might be able to run air ride again, if everything is still there, and another thing; is there a light on your instrument cluster with your gauges indicating the air ride was disabled? The light will look like an "O" with a line going over it, like a wheel arch? If not, I think your air ride system is still good, or it has been simply shut off. Or something like that.

[c93werdna]

No i dont see that type of light on the dash.
I didnt notice the passenger side box that you are talking about, ill have to check again when its light.
How would i run air again without the bags?
I thouhgt the better(easier/less expensive) thing to do was to take out the air anyway. Right?

[RageRover]

Airbags? The EAS uses the compressor to fill the original shocks that came from the factory. The springs were always on the vehicle. The hoses, were capped off that originally ran to the air shocks, that would rise the vehicle, or lower the vehicle depending on what the ride height was desired.

The circled item is the stock air shock that raises the vehicle, and of course these people replaced the stock air shock with Bilsteins. Hope this helps.

[Bene]

wha? air in the shocks? i helped a guy do a spring conversion on a SWB in December, and there were air bags, at least in the back... (sorry, dont know much about the RRCs)

[RageRover]

Nope, no stock air bags, they were air shocks, just like on Mercedes rear air suspension, but for the RRC it is all four wheels getting an air shock.

Click on this link to the LR USA site and at the bottom of the page there is a video of the "History of Range Rover" and in the vid, it shows an RRC, a guy pressing the up button, raising the vehicle. Damn I wish it showed the shocks in action, but I am damn sure shocks is what raises the vehicle.
http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Ve...r%20Videos.htm

[Paul Grant]

On the stock EAS system the shocks WERE NOT pumped with air. The air was pumped into the air bags that took the place of the traditional coil springs. The air bags WERE the springs. The shocks were the usual shocks with the main difference being that the front ones were mounted differently than in coil sprung Range Rovers. In all coil sprung Range Rovers from 1970-1993 the front shock was mounted within the coil spring. Obviously, with the use of air springs on the EAS equiped Rovers, this could not be accomplished so the shocks were moved slightly forward, outside the spring.

This is not to say that the front shocks on EAS equiped trucks are the same spec as the shocks on traditional coi sprung Range Rovers. I believe that Bilstein, as well as Land Rover, OME, ect, has a different part number for these shocks dependent on EAS or not.

RageRover, the EAS light is still illuminating on your dash because whoever removed the system never bothered to properly remove all the wiring. If the EAS was removed properly, as it would appears it has been on Andrew's, the light would not remain on. It's not a big deal but it is also not right that your EAS light is still on.