H4 Conversion - Land Rovers Only

roverthen · 11-30-2006, 07:37 AM

What's the best place to buy the H4 head light conversion kit for RRCs. I'm looking to upgrade the lights. The fog lights seems much whiter/ brighter than the headlights, so i figure I'll just upgrade them.
The H4 bulbs I use are Sylvania's Xtra vision which I get from Walmart for about $15 a pair. This is what I've been using on the DII. They are really great! They have no tint and are much better than stock. I used Hella's Xenon Premium bulbs and find that they burn out too fast and not to mention that they are more expensive.

Kevin88RRC · 11-30-2006, 07:41 AM

Check out http://www.rallylights.com/ or any of the Rover places like Atlantic British, DAP, or Rovers North.

roverthen · 11-30-2006, 07:46 AM

Are the headlights 7 inches in diameter?

Damn, I just read from rallylights.com that the H4 kits are not DOT approved!?

Ummm....never mind. It's the E code lamps that are not DOT approved. The Vision Plus H4 conversion lamps are OK.

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Originally Posted by Kevin88RRC

Check out http://www.rallylights.com/ or any of the Rover places like Atlantic British, DAP, or Rovers North.

sven · 11-30-2006, 08:02 AM

Get the E-codes, they are better IMHO. 7" is correct

p76rangie · 11-30-2006, 09:29 AM

Get Cibie!!!

roverthen · 11-30-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Get Cibie!!!

What the heck is Cibie??

MuddyRangeRover · 11-30-2006, 10:34 AM

I run Bosch. Very happy. Will be puting HID's in them in the future.

Paul Grant · 11-30-2006, 11:22 AM

Cibie and Marchal made some of the best lamps available. I have a pair of Cibies, I don't know if Marchal is still around anymore.

daway · 11-30-2006, 11:31 AM

hello, i talked to a nice guy at the link below. the difernts is w/ ECE the light is all directed to the street and not to the side like the DOT appoved ones. in euro and uk all street signs have to have lights on them. in the US (DOT approved) the lights have to light up the sides of the road (signs etc). this link has the list and on the top they give u the differnts of DOT appoved and ECE. the # HL79562 are the ECE H4 that he told me that r great but not DOT approved. he also said that MN (were i live) they r (cops and etc) more layed back about light set ups and we have no inspections. but if u r in a state that u have to get inspection u could get fined. DOT approved lights have a mark on the lens so the inspectors and etc can take a quick look. call them they r nice to talk with. i am going to get the vision plus so i do not have to deal w/ the law!!
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp
http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/Vision_Plus.htm

muddy, u should put a pic of your rcc w/ the new paint next to the one u have on your sign!

stevo-II · 12-01-2006, 08:47 AM

Ahhh, just get the ECE lights and don't worry about it. Don't run anything above the stock wattage and you should never attract any attention from law enforcement. Thats what I'm doing, my 7" ECEs are on the way from rallylights.com as we speak.

If you worried about inspections, you could just keep your old sealed beams for just that purpose. I think it stinks that buying "better" lights, with less glare for oncoming drivers, more light on the road, etc etc will get you a fine. Probably the issue with illuminating road signs is no longer a big deal, the new signs are so much more reflective than those of the 40's-50's-60's when the DOT light designs were created.....lol

Kevin88RRC · 12-01-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by stevo-II

Ahhh, just get the ECE lights and don't worry about it. Don't run anything above the stock wattage and you should never attract any attention from law enforcement. Thats what I'm doing, my 7" ECEs are on the way from rallylights.com as we speak.

If you worried about inspections, you could just keep your old sealed beams for just that purpose. I think it stinks that buying "better" lights, with less glare for oncoming drivers, more light on the road, etc etc will get you a fine. Probably the issue with illuminating road signs is no longer a big deal, the new signs are so much more reflective than those of the 40's-50's-60's when the DOT light designs were created.....lol

I think the big problems with the E-codes are people don't install them properly and aim them too high which creates a big blinding factor. Installed properly they are great. I personally don't like the sharp cut off they produce.
And also using higher wattage or too blue of bulbs is really anoying.

stevo-II · 12-01-2006, 09:30 AM

Yeap, aiming is critical, here is the best resource I have found for aiming e-code

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

daway · 12-01-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevo-II

Yeap, aiming is critical, here is the best resource I have found for aiming e-code

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

yeh, it to bad that DOT just does not change there rules for the times. did u get this ECE ones # HL79562 at rallylights.com?

stevo-II · 12-03-2006, 08:45 PM

Actually I picked up the HL95146 - which is the same design as the HL79562, but it has the "city-light" bulb in it as well, I plan to wire those in parallel with my parking lights. My Disco has the city lights - in Texas you are allowed to run with parking lights at dusk and dawn - I like having the headlamps lit as well.

They came in yesterday, but I've gotta go out of town, so I won't get them installed for a week - I'll post my impressions when I get them in....

Steve

sevenrover · 12-04-2006, 10:06 AM

I would say the IPF H4's, others have heard me already shout out my support of these, but I am completely impressed. IMO, I will never have DOT globes on my car again, I am enthralled with the E codes. But, that is just my preference.

11-30-2006, 07:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
roverthen Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NJ Posts: 463 Gallery: 0	H4 Conversion What's the best place to buy the H4 head light conversion kit for RRCs. I'm looking to upgrade the lights. The fog lights seems much whiter/ brighter than the headlights, so i figure I'll just upgrade them. The H4 bulbs I use are Sylvania's Xtra vision which I get from Walmart for about $15 a pair. This is what I've been using on the DII. They are really great! They have no tint and are much better than stock. I used Hella's Xenon Premium bulbs and find that they burn out too fast and not to mention that they are more expensive. __________________ Abraham 1993 RRC LWB 1995 RRC LWB I run, play, fix and live Rovers because I choose to.

11-30-2006, 07:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kevin88RRC Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Portland, Maine Posts: 722 Gallery: 0	Check out http://www.rallylights.com/ or any of the Rover places like Atlantic British, DAP, or Rovers North. __________________ Kevin 88 RRC "Audrey"

11-30-2006, 10:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
MuddyRangeRover Where is my Black Son? Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Aurora/Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 496 Gallery: 0	I run Bosch. Very happy. Will be puting HID's in them in the future. __________________ 1996 Disco 1 SE7- Stock(Awesome sound system) DD/Range Rover hauler. 1990 RRC SWB Camel Trophy Inspired- ARB, Hella's, Bosch's, AR's 15X8, 32"MTR's,Equipe suspension stuff, Skids, waiting for more...

11-30-2006, 11:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
daway Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: St. Croix Valley, MN Posts: 1,300 Gallery: 0	hello, i talked to a nice guy at the link below. the difernts is w/ ECE the light is all directed to the street and not to the side like the DOT appoved ones. in euro and uk all street signs have to have lights on them. in the US (DOT approved) the lights have to light up the sides of the road (signs etc). this link has the list and on the top they give u the differnts of DOT appoved and ECE. the # HL79562 are the ECE H4 that he told me that r great but not DOT approved. he also said that MN (were i live) they r (cops and etc) more layed back about light set ups and we have no inspections. but if u r in a state that u have to get inspection u could get fined. DOT approved lights have a mark on the lens so the inspectors and etc can take a quick look. call them they r nice to talk with. i am going to get the vision plus so i do not have to deal w/ the law!! http://www.rallylights.com/hella/7in.asp http://www.rallylights.com/useful_info/Vision_Plus.htm muddy, u should put a pic of your rcc w/ the new paint next to the one u have on your sign! __________________ 2001 X5 3.0i "dodi" 1993 RRC, county LWB "bertha" 1991 RRC (dad's), parting out (email me or check out the link below) myroverworld

12-01-2006, 08:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
stevo-II WWTSD? (what would Tony Soprano do?) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 116 Gallery: 0	Ahhh, just get the ECE lights and don't worry about it. Don't run anything above the stock wattage and you should never attract any attention from law enforcement. Thats what I'm doing, my 7" ECEs are on the way from rallylights.com as we speak. If you worried about inspections, you could just keep your old sealed beams for just that purpose. I think it stinks that buying "better" lights, with less glare for oncoming drivers, more light on the road, etc etc will get you a fine. Probably the issue with illuminating road signs is no longer a big deal, the new signs are so much more reflective than those of the 40's-50's-60's when the DOT light designs were created.....lol __________________ 2001 D2 -The Stevo-II 1992 RRC-The Stevo-I

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11-30-2006, 08:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
sven Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Centre of PA Posts: 373 Gallery: 0	Get the E-codes, they are better IMHO. 7" is correct

11-30-2006, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,140 Gallery: 0	Get Cibie!!!

11-30-2006, 11:22 AM	#8 (permalink)
Paul Grant Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: CT Posts: 941 Gallery: 0	Cibie and Marchal made some of the best lamps available. I have a pair of Cibies, I don't know if Marchal is still around anymore.

12-01-2006, 09:30 AM	#12 (permalink)
stevo-II WWTSD? (what would Tony Soprano do?) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 116 Gallery: 0	Yeap, aiming is critical, here is the best resource I have found for aiming e-code http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html __________________ 2001 D2 -The Stevo-II 1992 RRC-The Stevo-I

12-03-2006, 08:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
stevo-II WWTSD? (what would Tony Soprano do?) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 116 Gallery: 0	Actually I picked up the HL95146 - which is the same design as the HL79562, but it has the "city-light" bulb in it as well, I plan to wire those in parallel with my parking lights. My Disco has the city lights - in Texas you are allowed to run with parking lights at dusk and dawn - I like having the headlamps lit as well. They came in yesterday, but I've gotta go out of town, so I won't get them installed for a week - I'll post my impressions when I get them in.... Steve __________________ 2001 D2 -The Stevo-II 1992 RRC-The Stevo-I

12-04-2006, 10:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
sevenrover I'd Rather Push a Landrover than Drive a Jeep Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Durban, South Africa, 'til 2009. Then Back to Salt Lake. Posts: 71 Gallery: 0	I would say the IPF H4's, others have heard me already shout out my support of these, but I am completely impressed. IMO, I will never have DOT globes on my car again, I am enthralled with the E codes. But, that is just my preference. __________________ 1991 RRC 2 1989 RRC's 1998 RR P38A 1967 SIIA 88 1969 SIIA 88 1967 SII 109 1971 Vampire Radio Body 101FC

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