Land Rover Forum / Range Rover Forum Land Rover Forum Header Right
Go Back   Land Rovers Only - Land Rover Forum > Land Rover Model Forums > Range Rover Classic
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

   
LandRoversOnly.com is the premier Land Rover Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-16-2008, 02:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
1991 RRC 189060 miles and going
 
SafariDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 124
Gallery: 0
Question Has anyone tried Lucas Transmission Fix?

Wondering if anyone has tried this Lucas product and what experience have they had using it on a Range Rover Classic or other Rover?
__________________
The City is a Jungle.
1991 RRC
1988 RRC (sold)
SafariDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-16-2008, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dsfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 104
Gallery: 0
Default

I just used some on my Altima. Hit 100K so I replaced all fluids and put some in with the ATF. Didn't really do it to try and fix a problem, but it does seem to shift a little smoother even on harder accelerations. Some will call it snake oil or just trying to cover up problems, but I do use their oil stabilizer and upper cylinder lubricant/fuel additive as well. You will get stories on both sides of the spectrum of it destroying what ever it touches and being a miracle additive. It's worked for me so far and I have been using lucas oil ____ in all my vehicles. And yes my landrover sounds quieter with the stabilizer in everything.
__________________
'60 Series II 88
'04 Silverado 2500 4x4
'02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)
dsfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Rebuilding Rover
 
ArmyRover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NH
Posts: 2,000
Gallery: 0
Default

I picked up a bottle to toss in the saab when I change the fluid in the tranny tomorrow. Nothing wrong with it either but I figure it can't hurt.
__________________
"Only two defining forces ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G.I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom."

http://snhlr.org/



91 Range Rover Classic
90 RRC Parts truck
94 Saab gas mileage beater
ArmyRover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 03:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
1991 RRC 189060 miles and going
 
SafariDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 124
Gallery: 0
Default

Let me know how it shifts. My Tranny is also good but, with the miles on my Rover I would like to start on it sooner than later. My Tappit noise is gone after the Lucas oil stabilizer was put on.
__________________
The City is a Jungle.
1991 RRC
1988 RRC (sold)
SafariDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 03:48 PM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mouans Sartoux, France
Posts: 168
Gallery: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SafariDave View Post
Wondering if anyone has tried this Lucas product and what experience have they had using it on a Range Rover Classic or other Rover?
Bob's the Oil Guy is a group of retired oil engineers. They have a great forum discussing all oil issues, many particpants from the oil industry community. Click this to find the tests and result for Lucas Oil Stabilzier.

What about Additives?

James
bartell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 03:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dsfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 104
Gallery: 0
Default

If you go there realize that there is some good info there but his tests are EXTREMELY flawed in the case of the lucas oil and how it is tested. And this will probably get the whole debate started all over again.
__________________
'60 Series II 88
'04 Silverado 2500 4x4
'02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)

Last edited by dsfloyd : 07-16-2008 at 03:56 PM. Reason: added stuff
dsfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 04:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
Rebuilding Rover
 
ArmyRover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NH
Posts: 2,000
Gallery: 0
Default

Was I supposed to learn something on that link lol.

Dave

I'll report my findings for you on friday. I'll be doing the change tomorrow and after I get home on friday I'll have 50 miles on it city/highway so I can give you a fairly accurate description of what I see hear and feel.
__________________
"Only two defining forces ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G.I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom."

http://snhlr.org/



91 Range Rover Classic
90 RRC Parts truck
94 Saab gas mileage beater
ArmyRover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 04:51 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mouans Sartoux, France
Posts: 168
Gallery: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dsfloyd View Post
If you go there realize that there is some good info there but his tests are EXTREMELY flawed in the case of the lucas oil and how it is tested. And this will probably get the whole debate started all over again.
Bob and his forum are extremely easy to communicate with and very well respected (elsewhere if not here). Why not drop them a line? Their training and expertise are undeniable and they are very friendly.

In any event, my team has been displeased with the use of these magic elixers. We tried the Lucas stabilizer the first 20 minutes of a new engine and were unhappy with the resultant "milk shake".

Leave this type of stuff for ArmyRover to test out for you. He has defining forces on his side.

James
bartell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 05:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
Rebuilding Rover
 
ArmyRover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NH
Posts: 2,000
Gallery: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bartell View Post
Leave this type of stuff for ArmyRover to test out for you. He has defining forces on his side.

James
Not sure what that's supposed to mean but from the looks of that page on a very quick read it foams with or without the additive.

I have only used the lucas power steering additive in the past.

On the Rover it slowed the leaks.

The MB it completely stopped the cavatation(sp), and stopped the noise this was causing.

In the saab it stopped a small hose connection weeping leak.

So for that product my personnel experience has been positive.

Besides, Bob the oil guys on the internet he must be right.
__________________
"Only two defining forces ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G.I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom."

http://snhlr.org/



91 Range Rover Classic
90 RRC Parts truck
94 Saab gas mileage beater
ArmyRover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 06:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
Ian Matthews
 
p76rangie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Melbourne Australia
Posts: 2,066
Gallery: 0
Default

Any new oil will make gear changes, etc, better. So it would be impossible to tell if it was the additive or not. You should put in the new oil and drive it for a week or so and then add the additive and see if it makes a difference.

My criteria for a good oil has nothing to do with whether it stops leaks or not. Does it mean that it does not flow as well if it stops the leak
p76rangie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 06:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
1991 RRC 189060 miles and going
 
SafariDave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 124
Gallery: 0
Default

I drove with 20/50 for a week without the Lucas and the tapping was there. I put the Lucas in today after an oil change 4 days ago and a soon as I drove out of the garage the Tapping was gone. I have not driven very far with it yet, but by Sunday I will know if it works.

Now, I just curious about the Lucas Transmission Fix.
__________________
The City is a Jungle.
1991 RRC
1988 RRC (sold)
SafariDave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 07:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
Rebuilding Rover
 
ArmyRover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: NH
Posts: 2,000
Gallery: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by p76rangie View Post
My criteria for a good oil has nothing to do with whether it stops leaks or not. Does it mean that it does not flow as well if it stops the leak
Actually the additive was added to old fluid in all 3 cases.

Ian I would add to your criteria if it's supposed to help bring back old seals to stop small leaks That is one of the things it advertises on the bottle afterall.
__________________
"Only two defining forces ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G.I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom."

http://snhlr.org/



91 Range Rover Classic
90 RRC Parts truck
94 Saab gas mileage beater
ArmyRover is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 07:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dsfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 104
Gallery: 0
Default

Like I was saying before, I wasn't trying to start the argument over. Dave asked if anyone used it I said yes and have been happy with the results, smoother shifting etc. and yes it may have been the new fluid as well.

As far as bob the oil guys things being flawed it is based on the fact he did not add the stabilizer to the scheffers only to the one that already foamed. And when he added the stabilizer to the one that foamed he then turned up the speed and said it was due to the stabilizer. When in all reality it was most likely due to the increase in speed and the oil that was already shown to foam. If the Scheffers foamed at the same speed with the stabilizer it would have shown that the lucas oil caused it. It wasn't tested at both speeds in both oils with and without the stabilizer. I know they were trying to illustrate a point, but if the tests are flawed then so are the results. (I can be more specific as needed as unfortunately I have had to do way to many studies)

As said before plenty of people have used it and like it (that would include me), and there are those that have used it and don't like it, and those that don't like it on principle. Just don't take everything at face value because someone is the oil guy. Good information on the site just a very poorly done study in order to show the superiority of the schefer oil.
__________________
'60 Series II 88
'04 Silverado 2500 4x4
'02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)
dsfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2008, 06:21 AM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Mouans Sartoux, France
Posts: 168
Gallery: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyRover View Post
Not sure what that's supposed to mean but from the looks of that page on a very quick read it foams with or without the additive.
Hi ArmyRover,

Read it again slowly..(perhaps with someone helping you).

Quote:
Originally Posted by ArmyRover View Post
Actually the additive was added to old fluid in all 3 cases.
Is that how you understood, "I had just drained out all the previous oil and replaced with brand new fresh oil in both tanks."?!

What we have here with Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer is the famous Automobile Law of Purchase. That Law is defined as follows "Anything purchased will be defended despite fact or logic unless an immediate catastrophe occurs. If one does occur, it will be instantly attributed to the new purchase regardless of the true cause." A wise man does not attempt a dialogue with adherents of the Law of Purchase.

I hope this miracle product does everything it claims for all who use it.

James
bartell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2008, 09:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dsfloyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 104
Gallery: 0
Default

James,
When armyrover is talking about adding the additive to "old fluid in all 3 cases", he was talking about his uses in his vehicles in response to Ian's commenting that new fluids will do the same thing.

Maybe take your own advice and read it again slowly (possibly with someone helping you.)
__________________
'60 Series II 88
'04 Silverado 2500 4x4
'02 Altima 2.5 (Hurts less at the pump)
dsfloyd is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Land Rovers Only - Land Rover Forum > Land Rover Model Forums > Range Rover Classic



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1995 LWB Transmission shifting problem serge9444 Range Rover Classic 3 11-25-2007 11:26 PM
Lucas SCSL The Lounge 4 07-19-2007 11:27 AM
transmission problems scotth Discovery Series II 1 04-20-2007 10:06 AM
Anyone who has had a British car can appreciate Lucas jokes 75series3 The Lounge 7 09-15-2005 08:39 PM
Discovery Transmission and Transfer Case 1996 Land Rover Discovery 4.0 Rangie Mark Land Rover Parts and Accessories 2 08-22-2004 06:57 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:27 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
All content is copyright © 2004-2008 www.landroversonly.com and its original authors. Land Rovers Only is in no way affiliated with Land Rover