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Wondering if anyone has tried this Lucas product and what experience have they had using it on a Range Rover Classic or other Rover?
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I just used some on my Altima. Hit 100K so I replaced all fluids and put some in with the ATF. Didn't really do it to try and fix a problem, but it does seem to shift a little smoother even on harder accelerations. Some will call it snake oil or just trying to cover up problems, but I do use their oil stabilizer and upper cylinder lubricant/fuel additive as well. You will get stories on both sides of the spectrum of it destroying what ever it touches and being a miracle additive. It's worked for me so far and I have been using lucas oil ____ in all my vehicles. And yes my landrover sounds quieter with the stabilizer in everything.
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I picked up a bottle to toss in the saab when I change the fluid in the tranny tomorrow. Nothing wrong with it either but I figure it can't hurt.
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Let me know how it shifts. My Tranny is also good but, with the miles on my Rover I would like to start on it sooner than later. My Tappit noise is gone after the Lucas oil stabilizer was put on.
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What about Additives? James |
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If you go there realize that there is some good info there but his tests are EXTREMELY flawed in the case of the lucas oil and how it is tested. And this will probably get the whole debate started all over again.
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Was I supposed to learn something on that link lol.
Dave I'll report my findings for you on friday. I'll be doing the change tomorrow and after I get home on friday I'll have 50 miles on it city/highway so I can give you a fairly accurate description of what I see hear and feel.
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In any event, my team has been displeased with the use of these magic elixers. We tried the Lucas stabilizer the first 20 minutes of a new engine and were unhappy with the resultant "milk shake". Leave this type of stuff for ArmyRover to test out for you. He has defining forces on his side. ![]() James |
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I have only used the lucas power steering additive in the past. On the Rover it slowed the leaks. The MB it completely stopped the cavatation(sp), and stopped the noise this was causing. In the saab it stopped a small hose connection weeping leak. So for that product my personnel experience has been positive. Besides, Bob the oil guys on the internet he must be right.
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Any new oil will make gear changes, etc, better. So it would be impossible to tell if it was the additive or not. You should put in the new oil and drive it for a week or so and then add the additive and see if it makes a difference.
My criteria for a good oil has nothing to do with whether it stops leaks or not. Does it mean that it does not flow as well if it stops the leak |
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I drove with 20/50 for a week without the Lucas and the tapping was there. I put the Lucas in today after an oil change 4 days ago and a soon as I drove out of the garage the Tapping was gone. I have not driven very far with it yet, but by Sunday I will know if it works.
Now, I just curious about the Lucas Transmission Fix.
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Ian I would add to your criteria if it's supposed to help bring back old seals to stop small leaks That is one of the things it advertises on the bottle afterall.
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Like I was saying before, I wasn't trying to start the argument over. Dave asked if anyone used it I said yes and have been happy with the results, smoother shifting etc. and yes it may have been the new fluid as well.
As far as bob the oil guys things being flawed it is based on the fact he did not add the stabilizer to the scheffers only to the one that already foamed. And when he added the stabilizer to the one that foamed he then turned up the speed and said it was due to the stabilizer. When in all reality it was most likely due to the increase in speed and the oil that was already shown to foam. If the Scheffers foamed at the same speed with the stabilizer it would have shown that the lucas oil caused it. It wasn't tested at both speeds in both oils with and without the stabilizer. I know they were trying to illustrate a point, but if the tests are flawed then so are the results. (I can be more specific as needed as unfortunately I have had to do way to many studies) As said before plenty of people have used it and like it (that would include me), and there are those that have used it and don't like it, and those that don't like it on principle. Just don't take everything at face value because someone is the oil guy. Good information on the site just a very poorly done study in order to show the superiority of the schefer oil. ![]()
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Read it again slowly..(perhaps with someone helping you). Is that how you understood, "I had just drained out all the previous oil and replaced with brand new fresh oil in both tanks."?! What we have here with Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer is the famous Automobile Law of Purchase. That Law is defined as follows "Anything purchased will be defended despite fact or logic unless an immediate catastrophe occurs. If one does occur, it will be instantly attributed to the new purchase regardless of the true cause." A wise man does not attempt a dialogue with adherents of the Law of Purchase. I hope this miracle product does everything it claims for all who use it. James |
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James,
When armyrover is talking about adding the additive to "old fluid in all 3 cases", he was talking about his uses in his vehicles in response to Ian's commenting that new fluids will do the same thing. Maybe take your own advice and read it again slowly (possibly with someone helping you.)
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