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Old 07-17-2008, 11:18 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hi ArmyRover,

Read it again slowly..(perhaps with someone helping you).



Is that how you understood, "I had just drained out all the previous oil and replaced with brand new fresh oil in both tanks."?!

What we have here with Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer is the famous Automobile Law of Purchase. That Law is defined as follows "Anything purchased will be defended despite fact or logic unless an immediate catastrophe occurs. If one does occur, it will be instantly attributed to the new purchase regardless of the true cause." A wise man does not attempt a dialogue with adherents of the Law of Purchase.

I hope this miracle product does everything it claims for all who use it.

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Before you queston my reading comprehension I suggest you check yours first.

As stated by Dsfloyd the oil foamed either way. So I'm not sure how that is a real world test. To me it seems he's trying to defend his own purchased brand.

Since we have moved on to insulting the other, I must say I'm surprised that I finally found a french man that was willing to fight. I thought your whole country just laid down and played dead at the first sign of aggession.
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Hello,

I use a bottle of Lucas Tranny fix in my '93 lwb w/ 71,600miles. I drain the tranny (out of pan ~5 qts or so) every 6,000 and add a bottle of Lucas. Also i use the Lucas Power Steering Fluid to give it a nice coating to the PS and use a bottle of Lucas oil stablizer (Heavy Duty)every oil change.

I just topped off my 2001 X5 3.0i w/ Lucas Power Steering Fluid and topped off the oil w/ Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer (thinner for the newer engines) because i just bought the bimmer and did not know which oil they used last (i do not like mixing oils). The bimmers can take a 0w/40 Mobil or 5w/30 BMW oil (made in germany version).
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When armyrover is talking about adding the additive to "old fluid in all 3 cases", he was talking about his uses in his vehicles in response to Ian's commenting that new fluids will do the same thing.

Maybe take your own advice and read it again slowly (possibly with someone helping you.)
Thanks. It never occurred to me that that anyone would do that..so it passed right over me.

Do you just dump it into dirty oil too?

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I have added some to old oil once or twice but I usually put it in when I change the fluid
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Since we have moved on to insulting the other, I must say I'm surprised that I finally found a french man that was willing to fight. I thought your whole country just laid down and played dead at the first sign of aggession.
Ah... racism! Not unexpected.

Read your history. France has no shortage of war dead and heroes for the last 1500 years. You chose your insult unwisely. I have no wish to take advantage of that.

However, I am not French. Like so many others, I choose to live down here when not traveling or at other homes.

Dear boy, this is a very poor time in history for you be throwing stones at other countries. Stick to other subjects.

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Ah throwin out the racism card. That should work well. Besides I think I saw an ad recently for french military assault rifles: "Almost new, never been fired, dropped once". Anyways as stated before and back to OP, the stuff seems to work well for me, and I've tried a few of there products
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Since your such and intellectual I would have figured you knew being french is a nationality not a race. I guess I gave you to much credit.

Yes I add oil to dirty oil to if it needs toping off during the 3,000 miles between an oil change. I suppose if your 1/2 a quart low you empty all the oil change the filter and top off with all fresh oil right?

Never topped off power steering fluid, brake fluid, transmission fluid or coolant right? You always flush it first I'm sure to get out all the old oil.

I'm in awe, I bet you even disassemble your u joints and clean all the old grease before re-lubing them.


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Dave I added the lucas when I changed the tranny fluid, and I took it for a short drive 20 miles. She took off and shifted just like she had before smooth and easy. I didn't notice any improvements nor did I notice any degradation in performance either. This is her second fluid change since I got her 8K miles ago. The fluid was dirty when I got her so I decided to change her twice 5k apart to get as much of the old fluid out as I could.

So no noticeable improvements, and just for the bob the oiled up guy I checked the dipstick on my return to find no signs of air bubbles on the dipstick.

I'll update tomorrow after a longer drive.
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Thanks Army! Looking forward to reading more about the Tranny fix experience.
My tappets started again today nice and loud. I heard you need to drive at least 100 miles to really notice the sound change with the Lucas Oil stabilizer. I'm going to wait. But also my Rover takes 7 qts of Oil. So now it has 6 qts of 20/50 and 1 qt of Lucas. On the Lucas bottle it says you need 1 qt of Lucas for 4 qts of oil. So I guess I needed 1.5 of Lucas...? Ja! Can it really make that much of a difference? When I put the Lucas in it yesterday It stopped the noise and the car ran great.
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screw it switch to straight 50w valovaline racing oil


I'm kidding I'm kidding I joke I joke maybe....
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Since your such and intellectual
Thank you, I am flattered but I have never made any claim to that description. I prefer hobby mechanic. Will that do?

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I would have figured you knew being french is a nationality not a race. I guess I gave you to much credit.
My God, you have cut me to the quick! Honestly, I wanted to refer to you as xenophobic jingoist (far more accurate) but I thought that would have you running for a dictionary.

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Yes I add oil to dirty oil to if it needs toping off during the 3,000 miles between an oil change. I suppose if your 1/2 a quart low you empty all the oil change the filter and top off with all fresh oil right?
Heavens no! I add 1/2 litre of oil. You add 1/2 quart of something called Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer.

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P.S. Any idea why you are losing oil that fast? I am sure we can help.
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Actually I have never added Lucas Heavy Duty oil stabilizer, I used the power steering additive. Hence the power steering statements in the post.

Don't need the help on the oil leak I know where they all are I consider them low cost rust proofing.

Don't worry if you use a word I don't understand, I'll google it, that's much faster. As I'm sure you did to come up with those words yourself.

As for describing me as a xenophobic jingoist, your partially correct although only about 50%.

Yes I do have a intense dislike for the french army, I found them to be lazy, disrespectful, under-trained and unprofessional. Frankly they were quite useless. That dislike however is not intense nor irrational. As it is defined.

As for the extreme patriot part your damn right, and proud of it. Once again half right though as I don't care about a aggressive foreign policy, I'm a Soldier, I don't make policy, I just make it happen.
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Hey Army, that's funny! I'm going to drive it till my engine dies and I asked my LR mechanic to put in a 6 cylinder engine, Montero or Trooper what ever works that's more economical or even a diesel, he said he can modify one or we'll have some fun trying it out. He wants to try out a TDI type.

Anyway my Rover is not loosing oil. I might have the only rover that does not leak a thing, ever. It used to belong to an LR mechanic. My old 88 RRC used leak everything and it liked it.
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Ah throwin out the racism card. That should work well. Besides I think I saw an ad recently for french military assault rifles: "Almost new, never been fired, dropped once". Anyways as stated before and back to OP, the stuff seems to work well for me, and I've tried a few of there products
I am not French. Of course, I very much enjoy France (they sure know how to live here!).

There are many foreign nationals in our area, (even Americans). A few have and do make billions selling "used" arms for the US and other countries. Surely you cannot be unaware that the US provides a major part of the weaponry to the world, even to the enemies it sends its soldiers to fight. It is an important export industry.

One of the international legal criteria of that industry is that a weapon be classified as "used"...so someone has to make that so. I guess you can say that France "drops" their weapons, as does Russia, the UK and most of all, the US. Are you fellas that sheltered from how it all works and who is doing it? When inventories build up too much, a war happens...preferably a long drawn-out police action.

I am unfamiliar with the psyche of those who feel themselves alone and threatened. However, I do know something about France. It was the only country in the world that sent money, ships and men to die for the American Revolution. In fact, the very symbol of America, the Statue of Liberty, was made in France as a gift from the French people to the American people. If you want to denigrate Frenchmen, demean them, lie about them..be my guest! Your remarks are funny and say so much about you. May I pass them around?

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Dave go diesel you know you want to(peer pressure peer pressure) the part that sucks with going diesel though is the cost...





France was also payed back in spades in WWII for their earlier contributions. Perhaps you remember D-Day and the invasion where the U.S.A sent men, boats and materials to liberate france?

So does this have anything to do with lucas oil additives?
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How dare you guys start an argument without me being involved. Now for all the things I could say about the American war machine. But then again I find the French arrogant. I also do not care whether people waste their money on additives. So I will just sit back and watch others argue.
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