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Old 05-27-2008, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I first posted back in April that I was about to undertake the RRC plunge. At that time, I had a couple of questions about a CL Rover and one also on eBay. Thanks in no small part to the advice I received here, I passed on both of those Rovers.

In the last month, I have done a fairly exhaustive search of RRCs available all over the US. At one point, I literally went though almost every local CL listing searching for "Rover." I talked to folks from St. Pete FLA to Eugene, OR. Because I live a hour north of Chicago, rust is a problem for local vehicles. I was willing to purchase a Rover from a less rust-prone climate and either drive it or ship it. I saw a lot of great Rovers and talked to some really cool people.

In the end, I decided to go with one that was listed on eBay, but was actually being sold by someone who lives in Pekin, Illinois, about 3 hours south of me. I exchanged numerous emails with the seller and long story short, the list of work that he said he had done mechanically (as a trained LR tech) and the lack of rust at all (except on the bumpers) led me to pick that 1991 RRC to start my journey.

As I go forward, I hope to exchange information with you all, I have much enjoyed reading your posts, discussions and sometimes heated exchanges. I will try and document all of the happenings (both good and bad) and the decisions I make (both good and bad) both for your amusement and, ideally, to provide some help or reference to someone in a similar situation.

To start, here is what the individual who sold me the Rover says has been done:

Complete cooling system overhaul/rebuild (including removing radiator, cleaning, boiling and pressure checked)
new water pump
new thermostat
new valve seals
updated head gaskets and head bolts on cylinder heads
new valve cover gaskets, new valve cover bolts
new lower intake maniforld gasket/new end seals/new hold down clamps
all new accessory drive blets
new exhaust maniforld gaskets both at heads and Y-pipe
all fluids changed (front & rear diff./trans/transfer case oil/engine oil and filter (once for run-in and then changed again))
flushed cooling system with new coolant
new heater core
3 new tie rod ends
rebuilt pitman arm ball and socket
both front swivel balls rebuilt down to axle housing with new seals, retainers and bearings and set to proper preload
new driver's front axle and CV joint
recent front shocks and new rear shocks and front steering stabliizer shock (bilstein)
new brake pads, rotors OK
present tired Michelin with 6/32 tread


I drove vehicle from Pekin to my house (almost 200 miles) and it drove wonderfully on the highway, seemed happiest between 70-80 mph, I set CC at 72 for most of the trip without a problem.

Now, here are the things that need to be fixed before any additional modifications can take place:

upper tailgate is taped shut, latch is in the rear cargo area. needs new upper rear tailgate, then install latch I received with RRC so keys match. Or could install new upper tailgate with new latch.

Driver's window inoperative. Seller said needs Driver's Window Module (~$60)

Rear passenger window inoperative.

Windscreen has three cracks in it.

Headliner beginning to sag.

Rear Driver's side door only opens from inside.

right front turn indicator amber is cracked and broken.

Factory cassette stereo only radio works.

A couple of small dings on body.



Those are the things that were disclosed to me and that I discovered on the trip home. Anything else I find, I will add on here as it is revealed to me. The body seems to be in pretty good shape, with the only rust on the front and back fenders. tailgate has no rust at all, nor under carpets in wells or behind doors. I paid just over $2,000 for this Rover, mainly because of the list of repairs that had been done by the seller. I have posted a photo below, one of what I hope will be the first of many as we fix the issues and then start adding the fun modifications to make the RRC worthy of any off-roading adventures.

Thanks for reading,

Bill B.
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Old 05-27-2008, 03:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Driver's window inoperative. Seller said needs Driver's Window Module (~$60)
contact Paul Grant on here great prices and great service

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Rear passenger window inoperative.
Do the basic trouble shooting check the relays power to motor switches etc.

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Windscreen has three cracks in it.
Call around most of the time you can find a after market windshield for $250 installed.

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Headliner beginning to sag.
Pretty easy to fix yourself with spray glue and some time search on here for how to remove and some step by step directions. If the headliner fabric is in bad shape stop by joann fabrics they have some reasonably priced material for headliners there.

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Rear Driver's side door only opens from inside.
Probably a rod adjustment on the handle pull the panel and have a look. Be prepared to go to Napa and pick up some new panel clips their old and will break.

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right front turn indicator amber is cracked and broken.
PM Paul Grant on here

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Factory cassette stereo only radio works.
By an aftermarket and have it installed or do it yourself or PM paul grant to see if he has a radio

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A couple of small dings on body.
Go get it dirty off roading and you'll never notice those at all

Congrats and welcome to the asylum. Good luck with the new toy

Just remember once you start modding you're going to end up like me lol
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Old 05-28-2008, 06:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tips, Army! My goal is to one day have a rig as nice (and as happily dirty ) as yours!
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Mine isn't that nice it's just average there are much nicer rigs on here trust me

I still have to repair some damage from last weekend. I'm now missing the front bumper corner and have a dent in my rear bumper that rubs on the lower gate.

I also need to wash my carpets the water from this mud hole smells terrible lol
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Investigate that cruise control... I've never been in a RR1 that had a functional one! This could be a big problem.

hahaha!
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my cruise control works perfectly

oh and Thor owns one of those much nicer RRC's
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Ahhhhh... a cruise control epidemic... say it ain't so!

You guys are in big trouble if this problem spreads an mine works next time I get to drive it... (as soon as my front drive shaft is redone).

Now if I could get to the trail and use it!

Thanks for the compliment on my rig...
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If the folks that make the Rovers really wanted us to use the cruise control, they wouldn't make you have to locate and push a nondescript button on the dash that "supposedly" has a symbol for "road" before being able to engage the crusie control with the wheel controls.
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that and you don't need it off road where a RRC truly belongs

Just remember once you start modding things get crazy fast

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up until feb my Rover was my Daily Driver and that the interior is tan in the first pic now it's gray.
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or like this one...
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those are both great rigs!

so, the most important modification has been taken care of promptly--the factory LR stereo with the non-working cassette has been swapped out for a new alpine digitial music receiver that plays ipods and has a nifty usb port. also, speakers in the back were rotted out, so i replaced those as well. cost of stereo & speakers ~$500, but at least we now have tunes. VERY important.
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That it is Congrats on the first mod. Mine also has alpine with ipod input and kicker components in the front and kicker coaxials in the back
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glad you finally found one that you like, and welcome to the board!
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thanks, and much, much thanks to you for all of your patience and assistance. as i indicated above, it is one day my intention to try and have a rig as grand as yours!

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My rig has had an Alpine Cassette / 6 disc changer with the Alpine AI link from before iPods were around. I found an electronic switch at PIE that goes between the changer and the head unit which interrupts the signal from the CD changer when a signal from the iPod is connected. Kept it in the garage for a year, and just installed it with my mechanic two weeks ago! Love it!

The hardest part was choosing the songs to fill a 40 Gb iPod from the 130 Gb music library! Severe Music OCD!

Hahaha!

Should finally have some photos of the rig off road with the new flared wheel arches and the 35x12.5's! I'm off roading with Bill Burke ( of Camel Trophy fame! )
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