lincoln locking a rrc

[GreatDivide1]

thoughts concerns???i want to do this to my rrc..... heard alot of chat about axles being super weak...just how weak....i did this in jeeps for years with no prob and in mustangs that were street driven..... those were dana35 and ford 8.8 axles all stock......just looking for some thoughts...not to start a war over witch locker is better and y... i just dont like lockers soo i stay away... i prefer a spool...

[Funrover]

I would only weld the rear if you are going to do that.

[Bwana]

That'll be the way to go as long as you have a warehouse full of axle shafts. You'll break them on the road, you'll break them on the trail. Bad idea. If you really don't like lockers, leave it open/open and learn to drive.

[GreatDivide1]

Originally Posted by Bwana

That'll be the way to go as long as you have a warehouse full of axle shafts. You'll break them on the road, you'll break them on the trail. Bad idea. If you really don't like lockers, leave it open/open and learn to drive.

not sound like an ass but im pretty sure i have a pretty good idea how to drive ....been wheelin diffrent rigsfor 10 plus years... in that time is when i have decide i dont like lockers....open is fine and i tend to go places that locked guys cannt/wont go....but it is nice to have three wheel drive verse two wheel drive.... sorry if that made me sound like an ass...

[Bwana]

You've obviously been wheeling rigs with axles. Those 10 splines will not hold up to a welded rear on a parking lot, much less a trail. Not trying to sound like an ass either, (though I often do) I've been wheeling different rigs for about 30 years, and I prefer 4 wheel drive. Maybe you should put an 8.8 in the rear, with a spool.

[GreatDivide1]

yea i have a set of dana's sittin in the corner of my shop i just dont really want to go threw all that.... thats why i was wondering about theses one....

[XtremeMarine]

GD; there is a big difference between wheeling 4wd rigs, and an AWD rig. I have a feeling your experience is in the former, and you're trying to translate that into the latter. Whole different ballgame. I wouldn't think about a lincoln locker unless you're planning on upgrading to at least the GBR HD 10 splines. You're literally asking for a broken axle shaft with the stock units installed. Good luck though, no matter how you end up.

[GreatDivide1]

Xtm... that is true i have always wheeled jeeps, trucks, samis this is my first rover soo im trying to put all my gain experince towards this and im finding that its a very steep learning curve with these trucks.....im shocked that these cannt be welded.....how about the 24 spline axles anybetter???i know rovertracks sells axles for them...i just dont get it....

[cellulararrest]

Convert to 24 spline, throw some Rovertracks axles in with an ARB and be done with it. Welding is lame. You have a diff on the road for a reason (especially with full time 4WD).

[gordo]

Im confused. You dont like lockers but you want to Lincoln lock it? Ive got ARBs front and rear on my truck and it has transformed the Rangie. Stating that you can go places with an open diff truck that a locked truck cant go is ridiculous. Even if you believe that bullshit an ARB is better as you can go locked or unlocked and have a carrier that isnt the weakess link. Lincoln locking a rover diff is a bad idea, even worse if you want to drive it on the street. Gordo.

[GreatDivide1]

yes gordo i do not like lockers and yes i want to lincoln lock or spool it...as for driving it on the street i drive mine everyday to work and back soo it see's its fare share of road time thats the main reason i dont lke lockers they suck to drive on the street as for the arb yes it is the best of both worlds but im not going to throw down the money for it... yes i know its great its wonderfull...... and this is what i didnt want to happen with this thread....i know allll about diffrent lockers and i know what i like. what i didnt know was the the reasons and concerns about the rover axles.....

[hermanpj]

clearly you know the differences between the terms, so don't take this the wrong way.

i guess what i dont get is this - and this maybe just educating me - but it seems like the term 'lincoln locker' is being used interchangably with words 'spool' and 'welded.' Using a purpose-built spool or welding a diff to yield a spool will result in a permanent locked diff, of course. By contrast, is a Lincoln Locker a part-time locked differential like a Detroit Tru Trac or Detroit Locker? or would it be permanently locked like a spool?

It would seem to me that if your experience has been negative w regard to lockers, then going with a spool or something that results in a permanent locked dif would be worse. If I may, I think that is where people are having a hard time with how to respond.

I would love to see getting to the bottom of this thread bc I plan to put in lockers. Incidentally, when I do, all the advice I have gotten (which I intend to heed) is to upgrade to 24 spline HD axles, and upgrade differential gear sets, as well as any other fragile pieces.

[Crysyn]

Lincoln locker is a weld. I am confused too though, it would be horrible on the street.

[hermanpj]

yeah then i definitely agree w Crysyn. thats what i'm having a hard time understanding - if I didn't like lockers bc of how they perform on street, then i wouldn't contemplate a spool - certainly not on a car i plan to drive every day.

[cellulararrest]

Pat, you've got it right. "Lincoln Locker" is just a welded diff which is, essentially, the same thing as a spool.