lincoln locking a rrc

[GreatDivide1]

a welded diff is reffered to as a lincoln locker becouse lol of the lincoln welder "its a brandof welder like hobart or miller

a spool locks both wheels doing the same a welded diff

the problem i have with lockers and i have to exclude arb becouse i have never owned on..is the way they drive i have always had jeep and suzuki sami's... with a lockeryou change lanes it chatters then grab and shoots you over... going around a rotory again chatter then throw you from one lane to the next... and then in the rain ...well i think youget the point...

a spoon does the samething every time..no suprises fromturning to changing lanes... the only real time you really notice it is when you pull into or back outofa tight parking spot in the summer..

thats why i like spools and dislike lockers..again excluding arb....

[Bwana]

Just to help clarify this, the "Lincoln" refers to a Lincoln welding machine.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by XtremeMarine

GD; there is a big difference between wheeling 4wd rigs, and an AWD rig.

Ignore this, it is complete bullshit.

[XtremeMarine]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Ignore this, it is complete bullshit.

Yes, complete b.s.;

For example;

A land rover without locking cdl. You break an axle shaft, and you can't limp out in 2wd.

A 4wd vehicle. You break an axle shaft. You lock you hubs, and you limp out on 2wd.

Just one of many examples. And I am still a novice myself.

[cellulararrest]

Originally Posted by XtremeMarine

Yes, complete b.s.;
A land rover without locking cdl. You break an axle shaft, and you can't limp out in 2wd.

That's only the D2 and without a CDL, one would question it's ability off-road (minus Russ's which does quite well!)

[XtremeMarine]

CA; and that would be my DII in the avatar. Hence the experience, and the validity of the original post. Point being, that there are differences, and the thread starter should realize that a RR is a different breed to the sami's and heeps he's used to.

[Crysyn]

I think XM was just trying to say when you go to a full time four wheel drive from a Jeep, some people do not understand the open diff front to rear and what a CDL is, I know I didnt understand when I first got my rover.

[XtremeMarine]

A winner. Yep. I know I didn't have a clue when I got mine. Took hours on the phone with GBR to understand my truck. And I should have known since I had two audi quattros. It's all just a learning process.

[gordo]

The problem with a spool, lincoln lock or whatever is that the axles are just too weak to handle the stress it will put on them. The 10 splines are 1.1 inches wide and the 91 has a splined end on both ends of the axle making them even weaker than the earlier ones, which were one piece at the hub side. The 24 splines (rears anyway) are 1.25 inches and are one piece if Im not mistaken. Most agree that the 10 splines are better material but the 24 splines are slightly stronger (at least in the rear). Either way they are toothpicks. I'd agree with a previous poster that you are going to break axles, even more so on the street as the traction is greater there. They might last awhile but I would not personally do it. Save your coin and buy a locker. There was a 10 spline ARB that sold for 385 on fleabay last week. The Detriot is a cheaper option but I've never used one so I cant comment on them, but the detriot in the back and TTrac in the front is a popular set up and the cheapest route to go. I also agree it would be best to convert to 24 spline either way you go, but I do have 10 spline ARBs on my truck and have yet to break an axle. Being selectable helps and it never sees asphalt. Of course I got mine, both 3rds, all SS lines, switches, wiring, pump, etc for 750 shipped. Couldnt pass it up. One more thing the later model 10 splines can be upgraded to 24spline by changing the side gears, but that's another 500 bucks to do both diffs. Gordo

[GreatDivide1]

ahhh see thank you gordo... thats the info that i was looking for as in specific info on the axles...have a line on 24 sline setup cheap soo i think ill start there..

[Funrover]

Man everyone dogs the 10 splines, but they have never failed me... HMMMM..

[cellulararrest]

Really? Even with those 35's you've got? I've seen a rear one go at about half throttle up a snowy hill at Winter Romp last year. I think he was on 33 - 34 LTB's.

He could've been locked though. Not sure about that.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by XtremeMarine

Yes, complete b.s.;

For example;

A land rover without locking cdl. You break an axle shaft, and you can't limp out in 2wd.

A 4wd vehicle. You break an axle shaft. You lock you hubs, and you limp out on 2wd.

Just one of many examples. And I am still a novice myself.

Wrong again, oh great one. Most 4WD's have "C" clip axles in the rear, which will walk right out of the housing if you try that. You can't even flat tow it. You HAVE to change the axle to get home, or get there on a trailer. At least we can change an axle without draining the differential. Actually, without even getting under the truck. Nice try, novice.

[XtremeMarine]

Oh my god, dude. You've never used a ratchet strap to a frame to keep an axle shaft in while limping a truck back to the trailer. Or a comealong and a hilift handle. How long have you been offroading, if you've never even learned the basic recovery tricks for the c clip axles. The POS trucks like that are what led me to spend the money on a rover for my first truck to begin with.
BWANA; I think all of your experience must come from the magazine aisle at walmart, and watching xtreme4x4 on tv.
And I called myself the novice. Damn.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by XtremeMarine

Oh my god, dude. You've never used a ratchet strap to a frame to keep an axle shaft in while limping a truck back to the trailer. Or a comealong and a hilift handle. How long have you been offroading, if you've never even learned the basic recovery tricks for the c clip axles. The POS trucks like that are what led me to spend the money on a rover for my first truck to begin with.
BWANA; I think all of your experience must come from the magazine aisle at walmart, and watching xtreme4x4 on tv.
And I called myself the novice. Damn.

Just by you stating how easy that is tells me you saw that in a book. Now, I know you don't really want to start the argument that you have more off road experience than me. Anybody with that "Jay Leno Chin" winch setup with a 2 degree approach angle that wouldn't get you 100 yards into any real trail ride. Oh, but wait! You have an avatar with one wheel in the air! Oh my God! You're an expert!