Running 35's - Land Rovers Only

HRees44 · 04-15-2007, 11:55 AM

Who here is running 35's or close to it on stock axles? Have you had a lot of trouble?

What about running a skinny 35, like a 10.50? It seems that this would put quite a bit less train on the axles, or does a large majority of the strain from a 35'' tire come from the larger diameter (lower gearing ratio)?

I know something is going to break eventually. Is it only the shafts and CV's that are prone to breakage? Anything else inside the differential that is likely to give way?

Anyone with more wisdom than I, your input is highly appreciated.

p76rangie · 04-15-2007, 02:44 PM

Ran 34's on stock axles without any issues. It is only if you start changing diff ratios that you will have a problem.

Been wheeling in the Rangiue for 7 years in relatively hard stuff and never broke a CV.

HRees44 · 04-15-2007, 04:01 PM

I appreciate the advice.

What kind of 34'' were you running and how wide?

Nomar · 04-15-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Ran 34's on stock axles without any issues. It is only if you start changing diff ratios that you will have a problem.

Been wheeling in the Rangiue for 7 years in relatively hard stuff and never broke a CV.

You've been wheeling in "hard stuff" on 34" tires for 7 years and you have not broken a cv? Hard stuff must be pretty easy stuff where you wheel.
Have you not broken anything in the driveline at all?!

fivespddisco · 04-15-2007, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

Ran 34's on stock axles without any issues. It is only if you start changing diff ratios that you will have a problem.

Been wheeling in the Rangiue for 7 years in relatively hard stuff and never broke a CV.

BS!

Hard I dont think so.

how tall is the tire really ? not whats on the side

p76rangie · 04-16-2007, 12:55 AM

There is always people that think that difficult tracks means breaking things, where it is the driver that breaks things.

Hoyt, they are simex JT2's and their actual rolling diametre is 34.3 inches and 10.5 inches wide. Don't need any wider on a Rangie unless you drive in swamps.

p76rangie · 04-16-2007, 01:01 AM

Hoyt, I should add that if you run a detroit locker you will need to upgrade axles, other lockers, like ARB are not as hard on axles.

Sith · 04-16-2007, 03:12 AM

I ran 34 INCH BFG mt on my 1987 RR ....
I blew front cv's
rear diff into fragments
snapped axles almost weekly
bent up rear trailing arm

I ended up getting a diff professional called Max DeBurg to build my diffs with Maxidrive lockers and axles , 110County [in USA they are Defenders] CV' s with 24 spline axles inners and outers from Maxidrive .

My Bro in Californication used to run 34x955x16 Super Swampers ...he busted stuff left right and centre too

here is a pick of my one ....

p76rangie · 04-16-2007, 03:45 AM

How do you associate any of those breakages to the size of the tyres. I am not sure how a bent trailing arm can be associated to bigger tyres.

The question was whether fitting bigger tyres requires upgrades to the drive train.

A rangie can pull 4 tonne in standard form. Adding bigger tyres is not going to add any more stress to the drive train than having a huge load hanging off the back of the car.

I blew 3 diffs before fitting descent tyres. Wheel spin is the most common cause of blowing a diff and this happens with tyres with no grip.

Roverzuce · 04-16-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

I blew 3 diffs before fitting descent tyres. Wheel spin is the most common cause of blowing a diff and this happens with tyres with no grip.

....and bigger tires add more weight and more traction = broken axles

Funrover · 04-16-2007, 08:53 AM

Rover tracks sells great stuff....... You keep your current axle housings and new inners...... Couple of the rigs up here run 38's on that set up with no problems!

p76rangie · 04-16-2007, 02:29 PM

bigger tyres mean less wheel spin, less shock loading = easier on axles.

Nomar · 04-16-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

bigger tyres mean less wheel spin, less shock loading = easier on axles.

Man, with statements like that, you'll soon lose any off-road credibility........if you have any left!

That is about the most ridiculous statement I've heard yet!! LOL

Sith · 04-16-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomar

Man, with statements like that, you'll soon lose any off-road credibility........if you have any left!

That is about the most ridiculous statement I've heard yet!! LOL

X 2

weight , rolling diameter would be twp of the very first things to make a 10 spine go ping .10 spine axles are only rated to a 28 inch tire in casting spec's .
Slippage is but a factor .
Trailing arms bend with travel and large diameter tires , simple suspension maths tells you that .
ARB wont even warrant thier lockers in a Rover if you exceed recommended tire size of 28 inches .
If you can 4x4 in serious conditions without slippage , and a touch of the skiiny pedal ....well i would be more than suprised .

Funrover · 04-16-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by p76rangie

bigger tyres mean less wheel spin, less shock loading = easier on axles.

So...do you leave pavement?

04-15-2007, 11:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
HRees44 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19 Gallery: 0	Running 35's Who here is running 35's or close to it on stock axles? Have you had a lot of trouble? What about running a skinny 35, like a 10.50? It seems that this would put quite a bit less train on the axles, or does a large majority of the strain from a 35'' tire come from the larger diameter (lower gearing ratio)? I know something is going to break eventually. Is it only the shafts and CV's that are prone to breakage? Anything else inside the differential that is likely to give way? Anyone with more wisdom than I, your input is highly appreciated. __________________ -Hoyt Rees 1999 Range Rover HSE 1990 Range Rover Classic

04-15-2007, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
HRees44 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 19 Gallery: 0	I appreciate the advice. What kind of 34'' were you running and how wide? __________________ -Hoyt Rees 1999 Range Rover HSE 1990 Range Rover Classic

04-16-2007, 12:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,039 Gallery: 0	There is always people that think that difficult tracks means breaking things, where it is the driver that breaks things. Hoyt, they are simex JT2's and their actual rolling diametre is 34.3 inches and 10.5 inches wide. Don't need any wider on a Rangie unless you drive in swamps. Last edited by p76rangie : 04-16-2007 at 05:44 AM.

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04-15-2007, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,039 Gallery: 0	Ran 34's on stock axles without any issues. It is only if you start changing diff ratios that you will have a problem. Been wheeling in the Rangiue for 7 years in relatively hard stuff and never broke a CV.

04-16-2007, 01:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,039 Gallery: 0	Hoyt, I should add that if you run a detroit locker you will need to upgrade axles, other lockers, like ARB are not as hard on axles.

04-16-2007, 03:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sith Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jandakot Western Australia Posts: 28 Gallery: 0	I ran 34 INCH BFG mt on my 1987 RR .... I blew front cv's rear diff into fragments snapped axles almost weekly bent up rear trailing arm I ended up getting a diff professional called Max DeBurg to build my diffs with Maxidrive lockers and axles , 110County [in USA they are Defenders] CV' s with 24 spline axles inners and outers from Maxidrive . My Bro in Californication used to run 34x955x16 Super Swampers ...he busted stuff left right and centre too here is a pick of my one ....

04-16-2007, 03:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,039 Gallery: 0	How do you associate any of those breakages to the size of the tyres. I am not sure how a bent trailing arm can be associated to bigger tyres. The question was whether fitting bigger tyres requires upgrades to the drive train. A rangie can pull 4 tonne in standard form. Adding bigger tyres is not going to add any more stress to the drive train than having a huge load hanging off the back of the car. I blew 3 diffs before fitting descent tyres. Wheel spin is the most common cause of blowing a diff and this happens with tyres with no grip.

04-16-2007, 02:29 PM	#12 (permalink)
p76rangie Ian Matthews Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 2,039 Gallery: 0	bigger tyres mean less wheel spin, less shock loading = easier on axles.

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