Well strange electrical problem is back...

[hamrendan]

http://landroversonly.com/forums/sho...erd+electrical

Here is the thread from just about a year ago... Same symptoms... the car can be sittin idling and all of a sudden I hear a click under the passenger seat and in the dash on the left side of the steering column... then the engine dies and the interior ( or any other part of the rover for that matter ) loses all power... This happened a year ago, and then all of a sudden it went away... well not all of a sudden I think it was out of commision for a couple of weeks... well I am selling my 3rd car this week and I have been putting off thinking about the rover..

Ok last time It may have been caused by the lock lubrication that I used.... well this time thats not it... I can putz with the keys but it wont do a damn thing... I have to dissconect the battery to get it to start again, but then it will at some point quickly die again...die meaning the whole car loses power and the engine dies...


any ideas out there>?>?? PS ITS NOT AN IGNITION PROBLEM>>

Thanks
Hamren Dan

[OkieRover]

I would start swapping out the relays under the passenger seat.
I have been surprised a few times with the relays for my ABS system.
Swap them and I'll bet you find one that has failed.

Did you read the manual for what types of relays are under the passenger seat?
I'm hoping one of them should be kinda obvious as to the offending relay.

LEt us know what you find!

[sven]

So your loosing power, even to the clock? Clock should always have constant 12V power. Almost sounds like a loose ground issue. Have you checked/cleaned all your chassis grounds?

[hamrendan]

Disco mentioned that at the time.. I have the utmost respect for his knowledge after seeing what he has done to his rig.. I don't know what it is about electrical stuff and me, but I have the worst time with it.. Ok the battery terminals are great..I guess i can check the ground from the neg terminal. Then there is the grounding strap which is on the coil.. that is good, because I recently changed the coil... how many other places do I need to check? I Guess ill go and look at the ground to the battery as a start..

[hamrendan]

Ok I am not 100 percent sure this is what caused the problem, but... I pulled one of the relays under the passenger seat .. opened it up and found a small jumping spider inside... He was dead, so I cleaned him and his web out of there, and poped it back in.. now all of a sudden my car ran.. and ran.. I let it idle for 20 min.. no problem... so I took it 5 miles out to the gas station... Hmmm lets go up to Redding.. 15 miles there and 20 back and its still running... what the heck... was it a spider causing me all this grief??? The world may never know....

In other news... the air idle sensor was loose for some reason... I took it off and sprayed some "green" brake cleaner on there hoping it wouldn't do any harm.. couldn't find and electrical cleaner... anyway it seemed to do the trick I put some non hardening gasket goo around the end and plugged it back in... I bumped the idle up to 800 and all is good....\

[OkieRover]

Fear the spider.

pwned by a little jumping spider. How sad is that?

[yieldsign2]

congrats, crazy stuff.

How do you raise the idle anyway?

[RageRover]

That damn spider. I had a similar problem, but it was dust, like heavy dust that caused one of my Power seat relays to not engage. Basically I needed a goddamn Phone book and a pillow to keep me up right in my RRC.