5" lift ...

[afirover]

ok chaps ovis1 has been painted and do a search for ovis1 and you will find many pics ( just got back from moab 2 weeks ago )
this set is not for every one but I like it a lot.: ps note rear bumper D rings, ass

[nfrey2]

I dont see how its possible to fit 35's without hacking fenders to all hell and loosing every inch of suspension travel without going with a large lift. My buddies D1 looks almost exactly like the one in the post 5" RTE and all. We had to remove a decent amount of fender to make those tires fit. I bought some used 35's thinking they'd go on mine with only minor trimming. There is no way I was gonna cut as much as would need to be to make 35's fit with 4" of lift. The RTE is not a lift for the weak hearted, money wise. Road wise it drives like it did from the factory. It actually is easier to handle than my RRC with 4" b/c the castor is correct on it. And boy does it get the ladies all kindsa hot in the pants.

Obviously lifting a vehicle does raise its CG but with a lift should come wheels with less back spacing, thus a wider stance to offset the added height.

I think ppl's greater probability of flipping a vehicle with a lift like that is more due to the fact they can get themselves in a whoe lot dicier situations compared to when rolling on a stock vehicle.

I've been in his rig practically sitting on the door panel crawling for the back b/c we thought it was gonna tip. No dice. But doesnt mean we arent gonna build an exo for it here soon!

[Disco 1]

Originally Posted by freeflytim

Dude with the white truck....

do you know those 'tie downs' in the back are not 'recovery points' for d-rings????????????

Id suggest that no one stands within a 100 feet the first time you use them.

Have fun and try not kill anyone or smash a windshield when one snaps off.

just thought id share. right now my truck is dead. ive used those 'tie downs' with d-rings in them to pull my truck around with my dads truck so i can get it where it needs to be. and nothings snapped.

[p76rangie]

Afirover, I still do not like your set up at all. It might get the girls excited, but I prefer something that will perform off road. Your new photos just show the same as your previous posts. That is, the springs will not articulate and it keeps on tilting over sideways rather than tucking up the high side wheel. I dare say that the reason the girls would get hot in their pants in such a vehicle is that they wet themselves being scared that it will tip over.

Ian

[sharp21]

I think it looks great!
S.

[SCSL]

I think those criticizing 5" lifts are wrong -- completely wrong. I have two good friends running 5" lifts: one in a DII, the other in a 90. The DII just got back from leading trails at the Moab rally where it performed flawlessly. The 90 just got back from MAR where there was no mud pit too deep & no hill too steep.

The DII runs 35's with RTE 5" springs, procomp shocks, RTE radius & trailing arms.

The 90 runs 36's with 5" RTE springs, 14" blingsteins, SG 3-link.

Both are meticulously built & stable off-camber.

When you hit big rocks, or especially when you are running thru hip-deep ruts or waist-deep mud, the 5" makes a huge difference over 3". Figure 2 add'l inches plus an extra inch or so in tires means add'l 3-4" for diff clearance.

Here's the DII on 5" before he put the 35's on with off-set rims. So 33's with stock back-spaced wheels-narrow stance. Does this look unstable to you?

[WCURoverD90]

Originally Posted by SCSL

I think those criticizing 5" lifts are wrong -- completely wrong. I have two good friends running 5" lifts: one in a DII, the other in a 90. The DII just got back from leading trails at the Moab rally where it performed flawlessly. The 90 just got back from MAR where there was no mud pit too deep & no hill too steep.

The DII runs 35's with RTE 5" springs, procomp shocks, RTE radius & trailing arms.

The 90 runs 36's with 5" RTE springs, 14" blingsteins, SG 3-link.

Both are meticulously built & stable off-camber.

When you hit big rocks, or especially when you are running thru hip-deep ruts or waist-deep mud, the 5" makes a huge difference over 3". Figure 2 add'l inches plus an extra inch or so in tires means add'l 3-4" for diff clearance.

Here's the DII on 5" before he put the 35's on with off-set rims. So 33's with stock back-spaced wheels-narrow stance. Does this look unstable to you?

Got any pics of the D90 on 5"???

[SCSL]

Originally Posted by WCURoverD90

Got any pics of the D90 on 5"???

Here ya go

[WCURoverD90]

Originally Posted by SCSL

Here ya go

That is sweet......

[Badger1]

Originally Posted by p76rangie

Afirover, I still do not like your set up at all. It might get the girls excited, but I prefer something that will perform off road. Your new photos just show the same as your previous posts. That is, the springs will not articulate and it keeps on tilting over sideways rather than tucking up the high side wheel. I dare say that the reason the girls would get hot in their pants in such a vehicle is that they wet themselves being scared that it will tip over.

Ian

Hey P76 from what I have been reading you don't like alot of things, that's great... that's your opinion! You gotta remember we have a whole lot of different terrain to deal with living in the States than you guys do living on the island, so setups are gonna be a bit different.

[natvboy]

AFI - did you custom fab that rear bumper with winch mount? I want one!! Love the front bumper design as well - products of yours?? Going back and reading through all of this has me all screwed up again on size I want to go with. Think I'll take the winter to decide (my money in the winter is dedicated to hitting the slopes!)

Robert

[roverX]

Ian does make alot of good points though... but that disco with the 35's he shows is a DII. DII's have quite a bit more room to stuff a 35" tire than D1's do. Besides... ain't nothing wrong with laying a disco on it's side at 0.0005 mph... to each their own according to geographical location.

[SCSL]

Originally Posted by roverX

Ian does make alot of good points though... but that disco with the 35's he shows is a DII. DII's have quite a bit more room to stuff a 35" tire than D1's do.

Right they do. But it's irrelevant in the context of suspension engineering. Wheel wells can be made bigger easily; it doesn't effect how the suspension performs. ie: Wheels don't stuff, cut metal. Either way, the suspension either gives you full articulation or it doesn't. To claim that 5" suspension does not provide increased performance is silly.

The statement:

Originally Posted by p76rangie

That is, the springs will not articulate and it keeps on tilting over sideways rather than tucking up the high side wheel.

Is just plain wrong,,,as I think my pic illustrates.

[apbtpetey]

I think before you do any kind of lift you have to look hard at what you are really going to use the truck for. If you are not going to be using it on-road to much and will be doing a lot of trails that require 5" of lift than go for it. On the other hand if you plan on using it on-road on a normal base than you want want to think about less of a lift. Honestly I would go take it out in its current form and see where the weakness is and base your future set-up from there. These are very capable even in stock form. Also read through the site and you'll find plenty of pictures and input from people with various amounts of lift. When something catches your eye send them a note asking about how they feel about their set-up, but remember you have to look at what, where, and how much you are going wheel and take that information into account before doing something.

[01001010]

Originally Posted by Badger1

Hey P76 from what I have been reading you don't like alot of things, that's great... that's your opinion! You gotta remember we have a whole lot of different terrain to deal with living in the States than you guys do living on the island, so setups are gonna be a bit different.

Badger, while I normally like to remain neutral and listen to what everyone has to say and learn from it all...this time I'm going to have to go with P76...

In mud, I've been with Jeepers on 40"+ biggers and crazy-high lifts, running spools, and they've been stuck...then I come along, with my 30.5 MTs, and two other guys in early 90s Cherokees on 35' MTs with open axles and make it through with a little extra effort. IMHO..anything running tires larger than 35 that ISNT a crawler is overkill...unless of course you're going to be boggin through mud holes with mud 40"s deep.

Keep in mind that Camel trucks were almost stock underneath, obviously fitted with HD springs. Tires were not that much larger than stock...look at what those trucks could do.

My bottom line is...if your truck is a daily driver, and sees action on different terrain...no need to go so big.