Cracked Exhaust Manifold Recall

[portman]

Hi to all,
I am new to this forum and I'd like to intoduce myself with a question for anybody that cares to answer.
I have heard that LRNA has repaired the cracked exhaust manifold as a recall. I have a 97 Discovery SD that has the passenger side manifold cracked. When I called LRNA they said the recall covers just newer models, but for what I have heard there is a lot of people with this problem and not just the newer Discos, but the Ranges, as well as the Defenfers and from different years. Does anybody know anything about this??

Thanks

[Funrover]

I have the problem...but never heard about the recall..But I have a 92 RRC...I doubt they will still cover that!

[appstatedisco]

I had this problem for a while to the point where it became severe. It had actually caused quite a bit of damage to my point, and it cost about $100 to fix with a muffler shop. I had no idea there was a recall on this problem. Would I be compensated for the $100 as well as some of the paint damage even though my disco is not under warranty? BTW, it's a 95 3.9L discovery SE7

[portman]

Well, There is a recall for the Ranges 2000 to 2002 I believe, and the Discos from 1999 to 2000. What I've heard is that it is not a safety recall, as there is not a big safety issue with it, but a voluntary recall from Land Rover. But from when I talked to LRNA, they were not as voluntarious with me.
They know thre is a problem but they wont replace it unless it's cracked, fine with me as mine is! the dealer has to inspected and they will determine if they are to fix it or not. After talking to LRNA I will make an appointment with my local dealer and have them look at it and may be I can push it that way, if notI will contact the head of the relations departmentfor LRNA. I have never had a cracked exhaust manifold in any of my cars, it's a rare accurance that mostly happens to racing engines. But knowing that I am not the only one and that there are so many out there, then I believe LR has to fix it as the deffect is clear. BTW.. Most of the cracks are for the passenger side.

[Muddy Oval]

it's a rare accurance that mostly happens to racing engines.

That was a joke, right? Toyota recalled hundreds of thousands of cars for cracked exhaust manifolds, Geo recalled 250,000 Prisms for exhaust manifold cracks, Nissan recalled 80,000 vehicles for cracked exhaust manifolds, Jeep is about to be forced to recall potentially hundred of thousands of 4.0 litre Wranglers which seem to have an 80% failure rate...

[roverX]

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

That was a joke, right? Toyota recalled hundreds of thousands of cars for cracked exhaust manifolds, Geo recalled 250,000 Prisms for exhaust manifold cracks, Nissan recalled 80,000 vehicles for cracked exhaust manifolds, Jeep is about to be forced to recall potentially hundred of thousands of 4.0 litre Wranglers which seem to have an 80% failure rate...

Yup, it is a very common occurance. The etiology can be many different things or a combination thereof.

[portman]

Those who own those cars you mentioned, should have them fixed under recalls, as there is definetely a problem. Like in this case too...
And it is a rare thing, unless you own one of the cars you mentioned. How many exhaust manifolds have cracked on you?? I see you've had lots of LR's and probably even more cars, and if you've had...then again you are one more of us with the cracked manifolds.
Here is the link for one of the recalls.
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/recall/420b05001.pdf

[Muddy Oval]

I've had almost 40 cars so far and I've had three with exhaust manifolds that cracked... none of which are on the list I posted. I also work in the Land Rover parts and service industry and we rarely see cracked manifolds and we have Rovers rolling in and out every day. Yes, it happens and it's not a surprise- but there's no epidemic by any stretch. None of my Rovers have that problem either- but my 95 was misdiagnosed with a cracked manifold by the dealer when they installed my new gas tank, but they were wrong as the downpipe had just loosened up enough to blow the gasket. $6.58 and 15 minutes to fix.
So something broke- just get it fixed and get on with life. Your truck is just a few months shy of TEN model years old. How long do you expect a manufacturer to warranty something?

[portman]

Well, I am new to this forum, but not new to cars, trucks, boats and even airplanes. I just wanted to hear from the people that have had this problem with the 4.0 V8.If yo have not had it then I dont know why you even bother in replying..Was it to give us a lecture??
I've always said if you are not going to add something positive, or something worth the the matter in discussion then why even say anything at all..
I know my Disco is almost 10 years old, and dont expect any warranty to cover it, allthough in some states the emmissions system is covered by 10years, and that will include all the exhaust system from the the manifolds to the tip of the muffler. I just dont understand what you want to say?? Are you saying is not common or it is common with all the "hundreds of thousands" of cars you mentioned. Let me tell you it's so common that's why there are recalls open for this issue either voluntary by LR or by the EPA as I pointed earlier, and is also so common that your dealer missdiagnossed a "commom" blown gasket with a cracked manifold...maybe that is because they see more cracked manifolds than blown gaskets so ...they made an assumption?
I respect everybody's opinion and I expect mine to be respected as well, I am here in this forum to exchange points of view in a civilized way, dont care for the sarcastic people that go on lecturing people with impresive numbers.
You are in the Land Rover parts and service industry, I am a master machinist, specialized in big Diesel engines. I work on V12 Diesel engines that are both turbo and supercharged with outputs of 2000+ hp. Detroil Diesel engines that are 60 years old, that work day and night in marine or generator applications and I dont see cracked manifolds as often as I hear it from other LR owners. If I should expect my manifold to crack because my Disco is almost 10 years old, then what can a Series owner expect?? A rusted panel?
I'll just leave it at that, if you want to add your other 2 cents go ahead, I wont respond I have better things to do...like getting my manifold replaced under recall, by LR.

[Badger1]

I also have a 97D1 SD 4L V8, with a cracked passenger side(NAS) manifold. Talked to LR and yes there is a recall, and no, none of the 97's are covered! Big deal! Brand new manifold is 150 bucks, and if you know cars and everything else motorized.....grab a wrench and fix it! Your driving a ten year old vehicle, now is a great time to learn how to work on it yourself, it will save you a ton of money in the long run! Plus if anyone knows LR's, then muddy oval would be that person(along with quite a few others on this forum)! Stop throwing around your "credentials"!!!! If you know all the answers, why are you asking a question anyway?!

[bluemax09]

Had the same problem with the cracked manifold on my 97 Disco. Replaced it but, didn't hear about a recall though.

[texasrover]

I have a 98 Disco with one fixed manifold on the passenger side and one about to be fixed manifold on the drivers side.

If there is a recall... I wished I knew about it 6 months ago.

[Muddy Oval]

I don't know why you're acting hurt- You made an assertion that only exotic race cars crack manifolds, I am merely showing you that it is a faulty assertion. A cast iron manifold bolted to an aluminium head- there's going to be a lot of movement there and potential for failure. That being said, it's still not an epidemic by any stretch. The newer EPA mandates that the entire exhaust system is now reclassified as an integral part of the emissions system is not necessarily retroactive, but you may have an arguement that would work well enough to make them give in.
I, too, have built many engines, cars, boats and yes, a kit plane. My creds got cred too. Don't interpret what I say as ill will- it's just that I think you are reacting a little too much to a minor problem on an old truck.

[texasrover]

This is the same issue you have with Alum heads and iron block.. heat dissipation differs with alloys. Not all warped/ cracked heads are a recall. Although, I wished like hell I would get a notice about it and take mine in to be fixed. LOL what ever saved me from the trouble. I am sure if I take it to the Stealer, I would be going behind them and correcting something. It is hard to get a mechanic to care for your car like you care for your own. They are rare and when you fiind one... you had better treat them right.

[Adam in NYC USA]

Originally Posted by portman

Hi to all,
I am new to this forum and I'd like to intoduce myself with a question for anybody that cares to answer.
I have heard that LRNA has repaired the cracked exhaust manifold as a recall. I have a 97 Discovery SD that has the passenger side manifold cracked. When I called LRNA they said the recall covers just newer models, but for what I have heard there is a lot of people with this problem and not just the newer Discos, but the Ranges, as well as the Defenfers and from different years. Does anybody know anything about this??

Thanks

Gentlemen:

I think there is a misunderstanding here.

The man asked a question and asked for assistance. If you don't have anything positive to say regarding the thread, why say it ? Why are we venting spleens?

Some of the members in the thread are not beginners. Fine. But cant we help those who require assistance in maintaining our valuable investments in British technology?

Let's tread lightly here and keep this a civil place for discussion.

As for the discussion of the manifold, I have a 96 D1 and I dread the day that manifold will crack. It does not help that the oxygen sensors are installed there and occasionally I have to let some imbecile with a wrench near my baby.

Adam in NYC