Cracked Exhaust Manifold Recall

[Muddy Oval]

He asked a question bundled with faulty assertions- I was just trying to show him that the basis of his arguement was faulty. It'll help him in the long run to understand how common this kind of problem is. It's a horrible thing when you get criticized for telling someone who is wrong that they are wrong. If you want an exchange of knowledge and experience, you can't just tell everyone they are right all the time. Seems that on every forum there's a cycle of some new guy who buys a used Rover cheap, then gets sticker shock on the repairs and upkeep, then decides that Land Rover should be liable because it's not possible for the guy to realize maybe they are in over their head or made a bad decision. Whatever problem they have is searched on the internet where they'll see a few others- then they claim 'epidemic.' It happens all the time. If he goes in with that whole attitude, it's not going to help. Having background information on why they fail and a more realistic idea of how many and what the emissions laws cover etc will help him. It may not be the answer he's looking for, but it's a lot more realistic than going to the dealer with a 10 year old truck and saying that it's an epidemic of problems that otherwise only happens in "exotic race cars."

[bluemax09]

Originally Posted by Muddy Oval

He asked a question bundled with faulty assertions- I was just trying to show him that the basis of his arguement was faulty. It'll help him in the long run to understand how common this kind of problem is. It's a horrible thing when you get criticized for telling someone who is wrong that they are wrong. If you want an exchange of knowledge and experience, you can't just tell everyone they are right all the time. Seems that on every forum there's a cycle of some new guy who buys a used Rover cheap, then gets sticker shock on the repairs and upkeep, then decides that Land Rover should be liable because it's not possible for the guy to realize maybe they are in over their head or made a bad decision. Whatever problem they have is searched on the internet where they'll see a few others- then they claim 'epidemic.' It happens all the time. If he goes in with that whole attitude, it's not going to help. Having background information on why they fail and a more realistic idea of how many and what the emissions laws cover etc will help him. It may not be the answer he's looking for, but it's a lot more realistic than going to the dealer with a 10 year old truck and saying that it's an epidemic of problems that otherwise only happens in "exotic race cars."

Well said.
Land Rovers are very tempermental creatures and you have to committ to the truck. You should vow in the beginning that you will maintain and fix him/her at all costs, and the job will not be "shoddy". True to the end, much like marriage. If you cant tell yourself and your Landy this before you sign the check don't bother.
With that said you should search for that particular Landy that really does it for you whether it's a Series Landy, a Discovery, or a Freelander. But what the truck does not deserve is a half cocked owner that buys on a whim and is committed to a point, until it gets too sticky or expensive, then bails. It's funny how Landy owners like this always seems to have problems with their trucks.

[Serg]

Guys... I too think this is a bit overreacting.. you get a new member who comes to the forum to ask a question. Just help the guy out, so what if he made some assumptions. We all do that from time to time. I just don't want his first experience here to be a negative one!

[Muddy Oval]

It started out trying to help him- but then he whips out his creds and says we're all wrong. Someone who says a common problem with all manufacturers is " ...a rare accurance that mostly happens to racing engines"
It really does actually bring a question worthy of a new thread- how long, especially after warranty, is Land Rover realistically responsible for problems?
My opinion- as stated before, is that you- at some point- have to take responsibility and after 10 years, you should know if you got a good one or not.