Land Rover Forum / Range Rover Forum Land Rover Forum Header Right
Go Back   Land Rovers Only - Land Rover Forum > Land Rover Model Forums > Discovery Series I
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

   
LandRoversOnly.com is the premier Land Rover Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-01-2005, 09:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Exclamation CV Joints???

I've gone through every thread relating to this issue but after finally seeing the prices on new CV Joint kits I want to give my own description of the sound and be 110% sure before I go and spend several hundred $$$.

Well...

When I place the wheels at full-right or full left and get the truck (96 D1) moving, my front left emits a sound similar to that of creecking wood from an old ship, just not so highpitched (some description eh..lol). Yes it does have a bit of a vibration to go with it and yes I know this has CV JOINT wirtten all over it...lol I was hoping It'd be something else, like tire rub ( even though I have stock size )

I've spent hours looking at the Shop Manual and I think a CV joint replacement would take a whole day and maybe even two (for me, I'm very meticulous).

Any other suggestions would be TOTALLY welcome and considered.

Thanks
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com

Last edited by 01001010 : 08-19-2005 at 05:11 PM.
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-05-2005, 09:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: VA
Posts: 914
Gallery: 0
Default

If it has just started, it sounds like low grease/oil (depending on what you use).
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2005, 04:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
Disco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,819
Gallery: 0
Default

Binary! Unless you are reasonably skilled at mechanicals, changing the CV's should not be attempted.
__________________
No hand signals, driver playing with his transfer Knob.
Disco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2005, 06:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
beer drinking member
 
dent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 322
Gallery: 0
Default

stupid question but have you checked your wheel bearings? Not quite sure what kinda noise they're making but bad wheel bears will have a kinda grinding noise. plus they're cheaper and easier to replace.
how about recording the sound for us so we can hear it?
take care
sam
dent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2005, 08:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Hey guys, thanks for the replies...

Disco, I consider myself an Intermediate mechanic, I come from a Muscle Car building background...I'm only meticulous the first time I do things because I'll begin to look at how everything goes together, what connects to what, be amazed at how different LRs engineering is from other vehicles, and finally begin to slowly dissasemble, while taking mental notes about everything I'm doing. When time comes for reassembly, and for second times around in the future, I work quicker. What should have been a 15 minute job to change the dampener, took about an hour because I spent a lot of time looking at the underside of the engine and front end since it was my first time under the Rover...MUCH different from what I was used to in pre-73 autos.

Hank, I've never touched anything down there so I'm guessing it still has the stock Oil...or actually, I've never had a leak from there so as the saying goes, "If its not leaking, its empty"..lol

Dent, you know I have not checked the bearings. I do apologize because I should have mentioned this when I noticed but, the sound only comes on a FULL Left when backing up, and then when straightening out when moving foward. It barely sounds when at FULL Right and backing out. And what you said about recording it, I was thinkin about doing that today on my drive home, just need to find my recorder.
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 02:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: VA
Posts: 914
Gallery: 0
Default

Well, if you have never changed it, it's due. Just pull it apart...You will need a 17mm, 13mm 12-point, snap ring pliers, and a hub nut tool (2 1/16" I think). Sometimes the drive falange can be a pain to get off/on if it has never been removed, so a dead blow hammer may be needed.

Just pull the wheel, brake caliper, snap ring and two spacers, drive flange, two hub nuts, hub/rotor, and spindel. The spindel does not have to come off, but you may as well look things over....Everything can be sealed back up with gasket goo. Be sure to use blue loctite.

I use 90w oil, but you can also get the grease packs sold by AB, Rovers north, Nathan, etc...

You will have to look up all the tourque specs...First side may take you an hour/hour and a half to rebuild, seconds side will be half that... I can get em done in about 20 minutes or less, start to finish.

You won't leard unless you try. Just take your time. It's hard to f'''k up.

After writing this, I forgot to ask what year your truck is....This applys to 97-mid 99
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 02:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: VA
Posts: 914
Gallery: 0
Default

Most 96's have a drain plug, and all the above steppes in dismantling are not needed.
Hank is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 02:18 PM   #8 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Hank...thanks a ton man...you still have that Rack??? I'm goin up to MAR for sure!
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 02:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

BTW, yeah mine's a 96. Dude, really appreciate it! I'll look into that as soon as I get some spare time. Hell, If I'm on here at work all day, might as well do it while I'm "working"...lolol
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 03:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
Moderator
 
TerryS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Bloomfield, CT If I died today, I lived there all my life.
Posts: 2,032
Gallery: 0
Default

Your description of the sound is nothing like a faulty CV joint. Replacing them should take 2-3 hrs tops, unless you get all cramped up sitting on the ground like I do. Best if you have a friend with a lift and you can work at belly height.

A Dry CV and one which is heading south make a speed dependant clicking sound, and usually only at extreme angles, as thats when the balls are the furthest out of their races.
TerryS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2005, 04:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryS
A Dry CV and one which is heading south make a speed dependant clicking sound, and usually only at extreme angles, as thats when the balls are the furthest out of their races.
Terry, you nailed it!...That's exactly it! So it's only dry and my CV isnt a total goner?
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2005, 10:18 AM   #12 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Nevermind my above comment...its a TOTAL goner...lol...every day the clicking/clunking gets worse and I dont even have to turn the wheel all the way to the left to hear it. A normal left hand turn is enough. I've noticed that it clicks more when I press the accelerator than when gliding through a turn.
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2005, 09:29 AM   #13 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Thanks to IBJettin's suggestions, I think the problem might be this bolt here... ( keeping my fingers crossed )...




I'm going to climb under and make sure that bolt is tight.
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2005, 04:57 PM   #14 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 37
Gallery: 0
Default

Just a thought..but if you look at that picture..directly to the left of your circle. at the end of the bracket..it looks to me that there is a "witness mark"
It's possible that on full left turns for the right side tie rod sleeve clamp to hit in this area. This can and does happen on that model..the fix is to loosen the clamp and rotate the adjuster so it doesnt hit anymore..basically so that the nut/bolt is on the front side.
Not sure if this is your problem or not, but its worth a look.
good luck
son of lucas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2005, 08:14 PM   #15 (permalink)
Moderator
 
01001010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lawrenceville, GA
Posts: 4,509
Gallery: 15
Default

Son of Lucas, I do appreciate your response, but I really cant locate the witness mark you speak of...can you point it would for me with a mark or something...or if anyone who knows do so as well?? Thanks guys! The tab keeps growing for many of your, are Coronas fine???
__________________
JC...

1996 Discovery SE - The Blue Marlin - gone =(
1965 Series IIa 109 RHD Dsl - Wilks


www.TerraTrekker.com
01001010 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Land Rovers Only - Land Rover Forum > Land Rover Model Forums > Discovery Series I



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
All content is copyright © 2004-2008 www.landroversonly.com and its original authors. Land Rovers Only is in no way affiliated with Land Rover