extra mods for 3" and up - Land Rovers Only

VArova87 · 10-31-2006, 10:05 AM

ive read as many posts as possible, but being new at this, i gotta ask...

props of a new job - i get any and all parts at cost. in light of this, im ordering lift springs asap. i want to go with 3"...if my 97 has U-joints already, can i make it without a new driveshaft? how long will my stock one last before i need to go replacing it, and how much are they?

thanks for the help!

Disco Mike · 10-31-2006, 10:20 AM

On a D1. it is a roll of the dice when you get close to 3"s, I have heard many people say they are OK and some who said they had to replace the drive shafts with ones using double cardon shafts.
Who's lift are you going to use?
Mike

drewclare25 · 10-31-2006, 11:02 AM

i got all my stuff from dap for my three incher and have haven't had a problem yet ***knock on wood*****

Funrover · 10-31-2006, 11:13 AM

I am with mike.. I have seen the 3" work great with stock set-up.... Here is what I believe you need to do a 3" right

NEW:
Trailing arms
radius arms
extended brake lines
correct shocks etc.....

Driveshafts(if a vibration is created)

VArova87 · 10-31-2006, 12:03 PM

Mike,
i was going to go with OME since i can get them at cost thru my business. im prob gonna stick with 2", it looks like too much trouble just for an extra inch. bilstein shocks will go on with extended brake lines. im also looking for a bumper setup for the front so i can add extra lighting and get rid of that dang airdam.

Disco Mike · 10-31-2006, 01:00 PM

I would suggest your use the 751 front coil especially if you arew going to run a front bumper. You won't need to replace the brake lines for the lift, would be a good idea if your rubber lines are starting though, it will give you a firmer brake pedal.
Mike

300bhp/ton · 11-01-2006, 04:23 AM

It's not lthe lift but the droop that's usually an issue with the brake lines.

Personally I think a 2" lift will work pretty well for most occasions, rock crawling is a bit of a dark art and I'm not the correct person to advise for such a setup.

But regardless for a 2" lift I'd go for the correct shocks and springs with cranked trailing arms and 3 degree castor correct front radius arms and longer brake lines.

If you wanted another inch of lift you could buy new rear shock mount droppers and heavy duty 1" shorter front turrets.

VArova87 · 11-11-2006, 09:36 PM

new plan...after talking with steve, ill be ordering the 3" BB springs within a week. new, longer shocks will go on as well as extended brake lines. as the money comes in, new radius arms, trailing arms, etc. 33x10.50 BFG ATs have been ordered, as have new wheels from GCR.

Rivilou · 11-12-2006, 01:13 AM

Are you trimming your wheel arches to fit the 33" rubber?

And fitting spacers? You'll have to post some pics when you're done

VArova87 · 11-12-2006, 02:36 PM

minor trimming will be needed i think. they arent very wide, and ill have .5" spacers on. ill get pics up in a few weeks when its done.

MuddyRangeRover · 11-13-2006, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funrover

I am with mike.. I have seen the 3" work great with stock set-up.... Here is what I believe you need to do a 3" right

NEW:
Trailing arms
radius arms
extended brake lines
correct shocks etc.....

Driveshafts(if a vibration is created)

That is about it. These are the parts I will be doing for my 3-4" lift ont he RRC.
Good luck ont he project, and make sure to take pics!

drewclare25 · 11-13-2006, 03:08 PM

let me know if you need any help man good luck

Funrover · 11-13-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuddyRangeRover

That is about it. These are the parts I will be doing for my 3-4" lift ont he RRC.
Good luck ont he project, and make sure to take pics!

Pics will be taken.. But it will be awhile!!!

VArova87 · 11-13-2006, 05:53 PM

ill take plenty of pics. i ordered the wheels from GCR today. tires will be here soon, and the 3" Big blues and longer shocks will be on the week after thanksgiving. is it remotely possible to find used trailing arms or radius arms that are modified? say if someone went from lifted back to stock? $600 is alot of cash for a college student.

Funrover · 11-13-2006, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VArova87

ill take plenty of pics. i ordered the wheels from GCR today. tires will be here soon, and the 3" Big blues and longer shocks will be on the week after thanksgiving. is it remotely possible to find used trailing arms or radius arms that are modified? say if someone went from lifted back to stock? $600 is alot of cash for a college student.

I am with you there.. I am doing the USED shopping list!!! Here is a set for ya!

http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28103

10-31-2006, 10:05 AM	#1 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	extra mods for 3" and up ive read as many posts as possible, but being new at this, i gotta ask... props of a new job - i get any and all parts at cost. in light of this, im ordering lift springs asap. i want to go with 3"...if my 97 has U-joints already, can i make it without a new driveshaft? how long will my stock one last before i need to go replacing it, and how much are they? thanks for the help! __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

10-31-2006, 11:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
drewclare25 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 391 Gallery: 0	i got all my stuff from dap for my three incher and have haven't had a problem yet *knock on wood*** __________________ Best 4x4xFar 97 Green D1 3" BB springs pro comp es9000 shocks 32x11.50 BFG Mud Terrains 15" american racing steel wheels flowmaster 40 series dual pipes mantec snorkel

10-31-2006, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	Mike, i was going to go with OME since i can get them at cost thru my business. im prob gonna stick with 2", it looks like too much trouble just for an extra inch. bilstein shocks will go on with extended brake lines. im also looking for a bumper setup for the front so i can add extra lighting and get rid of that dang airdam. __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

11-01-2006, 04:23 AM	#7 (permalink)
300bhp/ton The Best 4X4XFar Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England, home of the Land Rover Posts: 598 Gallery: 0	It's not lthe lift but the droop that's usually an issue with the brake lines. Personally I think a 2" lift will work pretty well for most occasions, rock crawling is a bit of a dark art and I'm not the correct person to advise for such a setup. But regardless for a 2" lift I'd go for the correct shocks and springs with cranked trailing arms and 3 degree castor correct front radius arms and longer brake lines. If you wanted another inch of lift you could buy new rear shock mount droppers and heavy duty 1" shorter front turrets. __________________ Land Rover Discovery (3 Door) 200Tdi 5-speed Mods:Allisport LARGE FMIC \| Allisport Tuned \| Simex Jungle Trekker II 33.11.50R15 Tyres \| 15x8 8 Spokes \| Heavy Duty Uprated Suspension (shocks & springs) \| Wheel arch Flares \| 1" Wheel Spacers \| Custom Straight Thru Exhaust \| Custom Trimmed Front bumper with twin NATO Hooks \| Custom Rear Bumper with single Large NATO Hook 360˚ Swival \| Front Light Guards \| Custom Aluminium Rear Floor \| Bonnet Straps \| 100w Spot Lights \| Upgraded Headlights The Best 4X4XFar

11-11-2006, 09:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	new plan...after talking with steve, ill be ordering the 3" BB springs within a week. new, longer shocks will go on as well as extended brake lines. as the money comes in, new radius arms, trailing arms, etc. 33x10.50 BFG ATs have been ordered, as have new wheels from GCR. __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

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10-31-2006, 10:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	On a D1. it is a roll of the dice when you get close to 3"s, I have heard many people say they are OK and some who said they had to replace the drive shafts with ones using double cardon shafts. Who's lift are you going to use? Mike

10-31-2006, 01:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,166 Gallery: 0	I would suggest your use the 751 front coil especially if you arew going to run a front bumper. You won't need to replace the brake lines for the lift, would be a good idea if your rubber lines are starting though, it will give you a firmer brake pedal. Mike

11-12-2006, 01:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rivilou Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11 Gallery: 0	Are you trimming your wheel arches to fit the 33" rubber? And fitting spacers? You'll have to post some pics when you're done

11-12-2006, 02:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	minor trimming will be needed i think. they arent very wide, and ill have .5" spacers on. ill get pics up in a few weeks when its done. __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

11-13-2006, 03:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
drewclare25 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 391 Gallery: 0	let me know if you need any help man good luck __________________ Best 4x4xFar 97 Green D1 3" BB springs pro comp es9000 shocks 32x11.50 BFG Mud Terrains 15" american racing steel wheels flowmaster 40 series dual pipes mantec snorkel

11-13-2006, 05:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	ill take plenty of pics. i ordered the wheels from GCR today. tires will be here soon, and the 3" Big blues and longer shocks will be on the week after thanksgiving. is it remotely possible to find used trailing arms or radius arms that are modified? say if someone went from lifted back to stock? $600 is alot of cash for a college student. __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

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