headers a no go :( - Land Rovers Only

VArova87 · 05-30-2006, 10:00 PM

after much searching on the net and many phone calls to Summit Racing and Headman, finally decided not to go with the headman headers. they are made for a right hand drive and come with no holes for o2 sensors, etc...too much work. unfortunately, that was the ONLY company I could find in the U.S. that sold LR headers. any last resorts? anyone?

Muddy Oval · 05-31-2006, 07:16 AM

They fit LHD trucks too- and welding in O2 sensor bungs should only cost $20.
Fitting them in a beeyach, but they fit with a little work.

Disco Mike · 05-31-2006, 08:05 AM

Whats the big deal about adding the O2 fitting, the benefit from the headers is really worth it.
Mike

VArova87 · 05-31-2006, 10:13 AM

well the O2 sensor thing is not the only thing stopping me...reviews say these headers are thin and not too high of quality, (heck, they only cost $130) and you have to bend some kind of steering bar or somethin like that, and i dont think my mechanic is up for the hassle. Anyone on LRO live close enough to me to drive down and install em? Your troubles will earn you $$

Muddy Oval · 05-31-2006, 10:58 AM

A couple of people had to heat one of the pipes and bang it a couple times to make a small dent to clear the steering shaft. Some other times, it's not necessary. The headers will last a long time if you paint them and don't let them rust.

John C · 05-31-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by VArova87

after much searching on the net and many phone calls to Summit Racing and Headman, finally decided not to go with the headman headers. they are made for a right hand drive and come with no holes for o2 sensors, etc...too much work. unfortunately, that was the ONLY company I could find in the U.S. that sold LR headers. any last resorts? anyone?

you've obviously been looking in all the wrong places

you can fit the HH on (we've done it many times) or you can get the right headers for a LHD vehicle...

roverX · 05-31-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by John C

you've obviously been looking in all the wrong places

you can fit the HH on (we've done it many times) or you can get the right headers for a LHD vehicle...

So the Headman's will fit without mods and allow me to pass smog? All I would need to do then is drill the holes for the front O2 sensors?

VArova87 · 05-31-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by roverX

So the Headman's will fit without mods and allow me to pass smog? All I would need to do then is drill the holes for the front O2 sensors?

if that's the case then im ordering them today! the minor mod here and there is no prob (my mechanic can do all the work

) i just dont want to put him thru hell all so i can have headers...i think im gonna go ahead and order them. thanks for the advice!

texasrover · 05-31-2006, 01:13 PM

Have you checked Ebay... I think TODDCO (sp?) has a set of headers they are selling for LRs... just another place to look.

roverX · 05-31-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VArova87

if that's the case then im ordering them today! the minor mod here and there is no prob (my mechanic can do all the work

) i just dont want to put him thru hell all so i can have headers...i think im gonna go ahead and order them. thanks for the advice!

No dude! I was asking, not telling! I am in the same boat as you.

VArova87 · 05-31-2006, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by roverX

No dude! I was asking, not telling! I am in the same boat as you.

yeah i figured, but the reason i said im going to go ahead and order them: my mechanic said it would be worth a shot. why? because they have a 90 day return policy!

im gonna have them shipped to him, if he has to go thru hell to get them on, we are gonna mail em back and get a full refund. not bad if you ask me... headers or no headers, im getting a full exhaust from the manifolds back with new cats and FM 50 series for $250. score!

Muddy Oval · 05-31-2006, 10:16 PM

You can't return them if you have to heat up one of the pipes to move it away from the steering rod. It's not a big deal to do that- it's common when putting headers in ANYTHING that they need tweaking. You'll have to pop the motor mounts to jack the engine up when fitting them as well- great chance to swap in new motor mounts and they're cheap.

Hank · 06-01-2006, 06:56 AM

JanSpeed makes them. 4x4ag.com carries them

roverX · 06-01-2006, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank

JanSpeed makes them. 4x4ag.com carries them

Thanks DC.

VArova87 · 06-01-2006, 08:18 AM

alright, I ordered the headmans this morning. Next week the rover is getting new headers and a full 3" exhaust and FM 50 series muffler, all fluids changed, all filters changed (thanks DAP!) and new Bosch plugs and wires. hopefully ill get a few MPGs and a few horsies out of her after spending all this money!

05-30-2006, 10:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	headers a no go :( after much searching on the net and many phone calls to Summit Racing and Headman, finally decided not to go with the headman headers. they are made for a right hand drive and come with no holes for o2 sensors, etc...too much work. unfortunately, that was the ONLY company I could find in the U.S. that sold LR headers. any last resorts? anyone? __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

05-31-2006, 07:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	They fit LHD trucks too- and welding in O2 sensor bungs should only cost $20. Fitting them in a beeyach, but they fit with a little work. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

05-31-2006, 10:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	well the O2 sensor thing is not the only thing stopping me...reviews say these headers are thin and not too high of quality, (heck, they only cost $130) and you have to bend some kind of steering bar or somethin like that, and i dont think my mechanic is up for the hassle. Anyone on LRO live close enough to me to drive down and install em? Your troubles will earn you $$ __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

05-31-2006, 10:58 AM	#5 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	A couple of people had to heat one of the pipes and bang it a couple times to make a small dent to clear the steering shaft. Some other times, it's not necessary. The headers will last a long time if you paint them and don't let them rust. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

05-31-2006, 01:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
texasrover Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas Posts: 490 Gallery: 0	Have you checked Ebay... I think TODDCO (sp?) has a set of headers they are selling for LRs... just another place to look. __________________ That is not a leak! That is undercarriage rust inhibitor. 98 Discovery

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05-31-2006, 08:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,493 Gallery: 0	Whats the big deal about adding the O2 fitting, the benefit from the headers is really worth it. Mike

05-31-2006, 10:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Muddy Oval Otherwise known as STEVE Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Vermont Posts: 1,968 Gallery: 0	You can't return them if you have to heat up one of the pipes to move it away from the steering rod. It's not a big deal to do that- it's common when putting headers in ANYTHING that they need tweaking. You'll have to pop the motor mounts to jack the engine up when fitting them as well- great chance to swap in new motor mounts and they're cheap. __________________ 2002 Freelander 2000 DII w/CDL 1967 SIIA 109SW Former Rovers 2004 Modded "S" Disco, R.I.P. 2004 G4 Disco 2002 Modded Freelander 1995 Modded Disco 1994 D-90 #8 1993 NAS D110 1990 Range Rover County 1973 SIII 88 1972 Range Rover 2 door

06-01-2006, 06:56 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hank Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: VA Posts: 914 Gallery: 0	JanSpeed makes them. 4x4ag.com carries them

06-01-2006, 08:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
VArova87 the big yellow one is the sun! Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 223 Gallery: 0	alright, I ordered the headmans this morning. Next week the rover is getting new headers and a full 3" exhaust and FM 50 series muffler, all fluids changed, all filters changed (thanks DAP!) and new Bosch plugs and wires. hopefully ill get a few MPGs and a few horsies out of her after spending all this money! __________________ 97 D1 3" OME 32x11.50 BFG ATs GCR steels headers, exhaust, etc...

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