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k12 · 06-23-2006, 06:48 AM

I am prepping my 98 disco 1 for a 5k plus mile road trip to commence tomorrow! Last minute cooling issues required some additional work. In the process, I broke a blade off of the cooling fan.

It now has a vibration, most notable at low rpms. When looking from above, the pulley seems to have a bit of a wobble too.

I called around, and no one has it. The dealer cant get it until monday.

Do you guys think it will cause premature water pump bearing failure if I go with what I've got?

One option is to find a dealer on my route with one in stock, and swap once I get there. The fan is the same on a D90, and a RRC 1995, according to british atlantic.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Kieran

cgaulding · 06-23-2006, 06:49 AM

I think you'd be OK, but don't hold me to it. I think your best option is to call around and find a dealership on the way that has one.

And where the heck are you going that is 5k miles away? lol

k12 · 06-23-2006, 06:59 AM

Its the round trip that adds up. From PA to CO, to AZ, to PA. And some light wheeling here and there!

I guess I will start calling dealers on Interstate 70.

K

Disco Mike · 06-23-2006, 07:10 AM

Under no circumstances do you want to drive that truck with one blade missing from your fan. The fan will fly apart taking at least the hood ,a water pump and possibily the radiator along with it. I have seen too many of theses happen, in the past, and as a service writer, I loved it.
Trust me, I am not guessing on this problem, you will spend lots of $$$$$ if you don't replace the fan ASAP.
Mike

John C · 06-23-2006, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by k12

I am prepping my 98 disco 1 for a 5k plus mile road trip to commence tomorrow! Last minute cooling issues required some additional work. In the process, I broke a blade off of the cooling fan.

It now has a vibration, most notable at low rpms. When looking from above, the pulley seems to have a bit of a wobble too.

I called around, and no one has it. The dealer cant get it until monday.

Do you guys think it will cause premature water pump bearing failure if I go with what I've got?

One option is to find a dealer on my route with one in stock, and swap once I get there. The fan is the same on a D90, and a RRC 1995, according to british atlantic.

Thanks for your thoughts.

Kieran

Call AB and have them send you one overnight (if you haven't done so already).

DiscoSE03 · 06-23-2006, 08:33 AM

take it to the harrisburg dealer. not too far from you.

300bhp/ton · 06-23-2006, 08:41 AM

I agree you need it fixing ASAP.

A stop gap is to balance the fan for the missing blade. Maybe drill a hole or two and screw in a self tapping screw or so.

If you can balance it, it should wobble anylonger and be safe(ish).

Of course with a balde missing it won't shift as much air, so it won't actually work as well, which is why it's important to replace it.

Of course to balance it up you could snap the opposit blade off as well

Disco Mike · 06-23-2006, 08:46 AM

I know the old theory of chewing gum and bailing wires works in a pinch, but not with this fan, not when you consider the cost of the neaqrly for sure damage. If a blade broke off, there is now a weak spot, possibily a very fine crack that centrificul force will tear apart. Drilling holes will slso weakend more of the fan hub.
Don't risk it.
Mike

300bhp/ton · 06-23-2006, 09:23 AM

Godd call, I didn't think of that.

k12 · 06-23-2006, 10:15 AM

on a tip from a dwebber, I got a fan by imperial which worked for his RRC. No love. too wide.

The dimensions needed for a D1 are:
17 inch diam.
3 1/4 inch bolt holes (4)
Counter clockwise rotation
and 1 5/16 depth from mounting surface of fan-to-fan clutch, to blade ends.

I understand a Flex Lite brand replacement with p.n. 1517 should work. I couldn't find one locally to test fit so I gave in and ordered next day air from AB. At least I know it will fit.

So I'll loose a half day but if nothing fails (I did hoses, tstat, water pump and temp sensor yesterday), all will be good.

Thanks for your thoughts,

Kieran

06-23-2006, 06:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
k12 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 144 Gallery: 0	???mission critical??? I am prepping my 98 disco 1 for a 5k plus mile road trip to commence tomorrow! Last minute cooling issues required some additional work. In the process, I broke a blade off of the cooling fan. It now has a vibration, most notable at low rpms. When looking from above, the pulley seems to have a bit of a wobble too. I called around, and no one has it. The dealer cant get it until monday. Do you guys think it will cause premature water pump bearing failure if I go with what I've got? One option is to find a dealer on my route with one in stock, and swap once I get there. The fan is the same on a D90, and a RRC 1995, according to british atlantic. Thanks for your thoughts. Kieran

06-23-2006, 08:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
300bhp/ton The Best 4X4XFar Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England, home of the Land Rover Posts: 598 Gallery: 0	I agree you need it fixing ASAP. A stop gap is to balance the fan for the missing blade. Maybe drill a hole or two and screw in a self tapping screw or so. If you can balance it, it should wobble anylonger and be safe(ish). Of course with a balde missing it won't shift as much air, so it won't actually work as well, which is why it's important to replace it. Of course to balance it up you could snap the opposit blade off as well __________________ Land Rover Discovery (3 Door) 200Tdi 5-speed Mods:Allisport LARGE FMIC \| Allisport Tuned \| Simex Jungle Trekker II 33.11.50R15 Tyres \| 15x8 8 Spokes \| Heavy Duty Uprated Suspension (shocks & springs) \| Wheel arch Flares \| 1" Wheel Spacers \| Custom Straight Thru Exhaust \| Custom Trimmed Front bumper with twin NATO Hooks \| Custom Rear Bumper with single Large NATO Hook 360˚ Swival \| Front Light Guards \| Custom Aluminium Rear Floor \| Bonnet Straps \| 100w Spot Lights \| Upgraded Headlights The Best 4X4XFar

06-23-2006, 09:23 AM	#9 (permalink)
300bhp/ton The Best 4X4XFar Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: England, home of the Land Rover Posts: 598 Gallery: 0	Godd call, I didn't think of that. __________________ Land Rover Discovery (3 Door) 200Tdi 5-speed Mods:Allisport LARGE FMIC \| Allisport Tuned \| Simex Jungle Trekker II 33.11.50R15 Tyres \| 15x8 8 Spokes \| Heavy Duty Uprated Suspension (shocks & springs) \| Wheel arch Flares \| 1" Wheel Spacers \| Custom Straight Thru Exhaust \| Custom Trimmed Front bumper with twin NATO Hooks \| Custom Rear Bumper with single Large NATO Hook 360˚ Swival \| Front Light Guards \| Custom Aluminium Rear Floor \| Bonnet Straps \| 100w Spot Lights \| Upgraded Headlights The Best 4X4XFar

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06-23-2006, 06:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
cgaulding Rover Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Springfield, Illinois Posts: 127 Gallery: 0	I think you'd be OK, but don't hold me to it. I think your best option is to call around and find a dealership on the way that has one. And where the heck are you going that is 5k miles away? lol

06-23-2006, 06:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
k12 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 144 Gallery: 0	Its the round trip that adds up. From PA to CO, to AZ, to PA. And some light wheeling here and there! I guess I will start calling dealers on Interstate 70. K

06-23-2006, 07:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,282 Gallery: 0	Under no circumstances do you want to drive that truck with one blade missing from your fan. The fan will fly apart taking at least the hood ,a water pump and possibily the radiator along with it. I have seen too many of theses happen, in the past, and as a service writer, I loved it. Trust me, I am not guessing on this problem, you will spend lots of $$$$$ if you don't replace the fan ASAP. Mike

06-23-2006, 08:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
DiscoSE03 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 42 Gallery: 0	take it to the harrisburg dealer. not too far from you.

06-23-2006, 08:46 AM	#8 (permalink)
Disco Mike Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Parker, Colorado Posts: 5,282 Gallery: 0	I know the old theory of chewing gum and bailing wires works in a pinch, but not with this fan, not when you consider the cost of the neaqrly for sure damage. If a blade broke off, there is now a weak spot, possibily a very fine crack that centrificul force will tear apart. Drilling holes will slso weakend more of the fan hub. Don't risk it. Mike

06-23-2006, 10:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
k12 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carlisle, PA Posts: 144 Gallery: 0	on a tip from a dwebber, I got a fan by imperial which worked for his RRC. No love. too wide. The dimensions needed for a D1 are: 17 inch diam. 3 1/4 inch bolt holes (4) Counter clockwise rotation and 1 5/16 depth from mounting surface of fan-to-fan clutch, to blade ends. I understand a Flex Lite brand replacement with p.n. 1517 should work. I couldn't find one locally to test fit so I gave in and ordered next day air from AB. At least I know it will fit. So I'll loose a half day but if nothing fails (I did hoses, tstat, water pump and temp sensor yesterday), all will be good. Thanks for your thoughts, Kieran

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