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Fan explosion - upper engine destroyed

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The fan and fan clutch I purchased from AB and was assured was "normal" exploded. It took out the transmission lines, radiator, coolant tubes, water pump, there is oil and trans fluid everywhere and a huge dent/dimple in the hood. I'm still assessing the damage.

I am super pissed.

If you look at my previous threads I had a concern the fan I purchased from BA was defective because it had a slight wobble. Yet I was assured by their mechanic this was normal and now I am stuck with thousands in repairs. No doubt I will be told it was installed wrong or the temperature was too cold or whatever other excuse - to shift accountability for a defective product.

I was put in danger over this. On the side of a mountain where other cars could've just rear ended me. Luckily I had glow sticks and a super awesome local mountain police officer helped slow down traffic so I was not rear ended. I had to wait hours for a tow truck authorized to pick up during a winter storm warning and pay out the a--s in towing fees. They nailed me for everything they could. During the tow a street prostitute got in the car, the driver almost crashed into a dump truck. It has been the single weirdest night and I want to put it behind me nonetheless what awaits me tomorrow morning is destroyed fan, hood, and massive $$$$$$$$$ in damages.

I am wondering how to proceed next. And what the typical repair bill is for something like this. It sounded like a bomb exploded under the hood - I kid you not. I thought it was the front drive shaft but I have a GBR Heavy Duty so not possible.

How much frikken money and I looking at and where do I purchase a fan/clutch that doesn't wobble and explode and take out my engine.
I don't understand how this PLASTIC fan is powerful enough to explode and do this much damage. I might even have this on my cam.

Has anyone else had this happen ? What I am looking at besides massive repair bills from the only LR specialist in town that wants $300 hour.
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Happened few times on Td5s too that the viscous fan snapped and ruined the radiator or the drive belt then the adventure ended up bad in various forms ... always with aftermarket units... genuine LR is the only reliable.

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Not to kick you while you are down but a wobble in the Fan/Clutch/Water Pump is NOT normal. The fan/clutch is literally directly attached to the water pump and if a wobble should occur, there is a problem. There's a list of issues which could cause something like that but regardless, it's fairly simple to diagnose because there are only 4 parts to check:

Water Pump
Water Pump Pulley (4 screws hold into place on the water pump)
Fan Clutch
Fan Blades (attached to the clutch)

I'm not going to tell you how to maintain your truck, but if I were you, I'd do the work myself on this because just from your explanation above, you are going to need to rebuild the cooling system. If you do the work yourself, you can do it for just under $1000.

I'm sure you can find a hood at the pick/pull and change that out in the parking lot so you can dump the old hood there?

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Any pictures of the damage?
Would help evaluate what will need to be repaired

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Define exploded, I have seen fans shed blades and I have seen belts toast everything. But generally fans do not catastrophically fail, case in point when I bought my D2 one fan blade was missing a piece I had put about 2000 km on the truck before I found it.

Given you had a wobble my bet is the water pump went, caused the belt to break which toasted the fan. However it could be you just got a bad fan but generally they just toss pieces of blades not entire blades and if you have your shroud it tends to only kill the rad.

No matter the cause sorry to hear about your truck
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Just to be clear, what I meant about the 1000 was only for the cooling system... 😁

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Bad news. Sorry to hear it. Good luck.
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Any pictures of the damage?
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I have photos and video on the blue phone and I have a recording of it when it happened but I have a BLU phone and can't figure out how to upload the photos and videos online. I don't like selfies and Facebook photos and don't participate in social media unless needed/required.

I do have photos of the damage and cannot figure out how to get the cell to work. Switched from I-Phone to BLU-Phone.

The damage is really bad. Those copper hose were pinched. The MAF has a hole in it. There is oil coolant and trans fluid covering the entire engine. The ACE unit is also possibly destroyed. It's leaking oil from the nut? The water pump is destroyed.

The RPM's / REV's surged before it happened. Am thinking the wobbly fan slowly destroyed the water pump which then seized and blew up the fan.

I'm really sorry I can't figure out how to send photos and videos from this POS.

I need to get these out to a mechanic for an estimate. I am in Las Vegas and there is nobody here that knows older Land Rovers.
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Define exploded, I have seen fans shed blades and I have seen belts toast everything. But generally fans do not catastrophically fail, case in point when I bought my D2 one fan blade was missing a piece I had put about 2000 km on the truck before I found it.

Given you had a wobble my bet is the water pump went, caused the belt to break which toasted the fan. However it could be you just got a bad fan but generally they just toss pieces of blades not entire blades and if you have your shroud it tends to only kill the rad.

No matter the cause sorry to hear about your truck
Exploded = It made a grenade sound and all the fan blades ejected destroying random areas of the engine. The fan was wobbly. I suspect it was defective or bent ever so slightly in shipping. All blades were tossed. All the blades are missing. The shroud was destroyed. There are punctures and slashes all over the engine. I was going up a mountain road when it happened.
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Exploded = It made a grenade sound and all the fan blades ejected destroying random areas of the engine. The fan was wobbly. I suspect it was defective or bent ever so slightly in shipping. All blades were tossed. All the blades are missing. The shroud was destroyed. There are punctures and slashes all over the engine. I was going up a mountain road when it happened.

Wow that is a new one for me - sorry about your bad luck. I have never seen a fan toss all the blades even from a belt impact. that is brutal
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It happens that the whole blade assy splits from the viscous unit then it's cathced by the drive belt and smashed all over

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I need to get these out to a mechanic for an estimate. I am in Las Vegas and there is nobody here that knows older Land Rovers.
This is going to be your problem man. These trucks are becoming more and more a niche truck with limited expertise available in shops due to such. This [and other] forums are the best source for assisting in diagnosing and fixing our trucks. Once you figure out how to get the pictures up there, we can help you fix it and it'll save you quite a bit of money.

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That sucks - bad luck. The clutch in my RR failed and the fan locked on once. It absolutely roared and I was really glad it didn't shed all the blades or have some other catastrophic problem. This is one of the main reasons I dumped a viscous clutch fan and did my electric conversion in my Disco.

I did some Googling and found that there are two places besides the dealer that specialize in LR: Kensington Motor Cars and Desert Oasis European Auto Service and Repair. There's Land Rover Las Vegas as well. One of them should be able to help you.

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You can use your phone to email those pics to yourself. Download the pics on your computer. Then upload the pics into a program like imgur and post them to the forum. You post the by copying the url into the text box where you make comments. So:


Comment, comment, comment. Url

Click on Submit Reply. When you open that post again, the pic will be there instead of an url.
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That sucks - bad luck. The clutch in my RR failed and the fan locked on once. It absolutely roared and I was really glad it didn't shed all the blades or have some other catastrophic problem. This is one of the main reasons I dumped a viscous clutch fan and did my electric conversion in my Disco.

I did some Googling and found that there are two places besides the dealer that specialize in LR: Kensington Motor Cars and Desert Oasis European Auto Service and Repair. There's Land Rover Las Vegas as well. One of them should be able to help you.

I'll try those. Thank you.

I purchased 2 electric fans that zip tie onto the radiator but never got around to installing them. Do your electric fans increase gas mileage?
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