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am i going to have a hard time finding a ring and pinion for a series 1 ?,
my neighbor has a very very low mile unit sitting in his barn with the rear end in pieces, been this way since the 60's! kids drove it in hay field, wrapped grass around the drive line, cut the seal, lost oil ...etc .
i am going to ask him if i can offer him something he'll take for it. it looks like new under the hood! hard top though.
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The diff will probably be interchangeable with just about any other Rover diff

Series ones are amazingly easy to get parts for, there is even a guy in England pressing new body panels on a wooden press with wooden die. The press was made in the mid-50s, 1850s.

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cool!, does he do series 3 panels too? i ran a dozer into the lf of my land rover. ((dozer ok))! ........ i havn't looked too close but that series 1 (1964 i think) differential looks smaller than the unit on my series 3.
........ also, my series 3 rolled down the driveway backward (120 ft.) and slammed into the side of my '42 dodge weapons carrier......moved it 10''!!
You'll probably see me on here looking for hints on removing aluminum dents when i finish my shop and quit going to sea!
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A '64 would be a Series IIa.
A SI would be a '47-'58

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well, it's definately not a series 2A, i just didn't think it was that old. 1958 you say is when they quit making series 1,
it sounds like there may be a ring and pinion to be had.
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Why do you say it's definitely not a IIA?

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well, i 'think' it isn't a series 2a because there is a well behind the seats in the floor for the tire to sit in where it is secured 'behind the front seats'. the seats are the old elephant skin it seems, definatly not some fabric of anytype, the clutch and brake pedal go straight up and down, not into the firewall nor suspended from up under the dash, i am quite sure it has the electric fuel pump, and as i've mentioned, this thing is like new under the hood.
i've just always thought the series 2 was so much like my series 3. this thing is smaller, all over it appears, even the differential appears smaller.
but then, I am learning that although i may know every nut, bolt and thrust washer on my series 3 it is apparant i have plenty to learn about series land rovers. by the way, this is the first forum i've ever followed and participated in and i think this is a boon to landrover repair!
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Are the sides straight vertically, or do they have the belt-line that curves inward?

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well, i havn't laid eyes on it for about 5 years so am sorry to say i can't really say........... i'm not even sure now if they had the rope tie down on the side but i think it may........
it has a rotary switch to operate the ignition/starter and i think it has the hole in the rear for the pto to come thru and there was something unique about the hub.....covers for the end of the half shaft......pointed more?
we'll certainly know more because i am going home in a week and will see it while on vacation. talking here on the forum about it cements my determination to get it into my shop one day and see it on the road advertising a real utilitarian vehicle, another envy of all who see it.
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If I recall correctly only the Series 1's had clutch and brake pedals through the floor. Series II onward had pendant pedals. Most of everything else you mention carried over to the SII and SIIa.

Also, as Paul asked, straight sides would be a giveaway too.

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If I recall correctly only the Series 1's had clutch and brake pedals through the floor. Series II onward had pendant pedals. Most of everything else you mention carried over to the SII and SIIa.

Also, as Paul asked, straight sides would be a giveaway too.
You recall correctly, however, it is not that difficult to convert a Series I to pendant pedals and it was a common mod as the master sylinders often failed due to exposure.

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If I recall correctly only the Series 1's had clutch and brake pedals through the floor. Series II onward had pendant pedals. Most of everything else you mention carried over to the SII and SIIa.

Also, as Paul asked, straight sides would be a giveaway too.
Didn't the pedals of the very earliest come up through the floor, and then changed to coming through the footwells, ala early CJ?
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Didn't the pedals of the very earliest come up through the floor, and then changed to coming through the footwells, ala early CJ?
Series ones had the pedals coming through the floor at least as late as 1957, if not all the way through production.

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