[jordieb213]

SOLVED - 2004 - Door Actuator

Gents,

I went to unlock the rover yesterday, and only the driver's door will unlock. I do not have a key FOB, I use only the key to lock/unlock the doors.

Usually all of the doors unlock, however, now I can only unlock the driver's door.

When I press the unlock/lock button on the dash, you can hear the locks "trying", but it never unlocks the doors.

I cannot open any door except the driver's from the inside or from the outside.

Is this strictly a driver's door actuator issue, or is it some other issue?


Thanks for the help - Jordan

 

[jordieb213]

I take it back. When I hit the "unlock" button on the dash, it does NOT sound like it is "trying" to unlock.

 

[Timtech]

Lock actuators. I have the reverse problem. My fob and the dash unlock and lock everything but the driver door. Seems odd you would have three go out at one time though. Has it. been rainy where you are?

 

[MRussell]

Try to find the grounds for the doors to see if power can flow


Mike Russell
Age 18
2003 discovery se
Lover of Rovers

 

[jordieb213]

Thanks guys.

I think it is DEFINITELY something to do with the driver's side door. In fact, I just tried to unlock the door with the key and there was zero resistance in the locking cylinder. Now I'm completely locked out.

I'll call the locksmith tomorrow to get me back into the truck....where all of my tools are currently located. (Thank God for AAA)

 

[Bosnian Discovery]

More than likely the pin that connects the lock in the handle to the switch on the actuator is broken. Incredibly common issue and I've seen more LRs with it broken than not. You need a replacement pin:

Land Rover Front LH Driver Door Handle Pin Discovery II Aftermarket MR0010 | eBay

I actually did end up paying $25 for this "new" one only to find out it was a standard 3" nail that someone had ground down to work. Could've done it myself. The original (broken) pin is still probably at the bottom of the door so you can use it as a template to make a new one.

 

[jordieb213]

More than likely the pin that connects the lock in the handle to the switch on the actuator is broken. Incredibly common issue and I've seen more LRs with it broken than not. You need a replacement pin:

Land Rover Front LH Driver Door Handle Pin Discovery II Aftermarket MR0010 | eBay

I actually did end up paying $25 for this "new" one only to find out it was a standard 3" nail that someone had ground down to work. Could've done it myself. The original (broken) pin is still probably at the bottom of the door so you can use it as a template to make a new one.

Hey Bosnian, thanks for the reply! I did, in fact, find that this was broken today.

I didn't call a locksmith to open the door either. I was able to pry the window frame out a bit and lasso a piece of paracord over the handle to pull the door open.:buttrock:

The metal on the original looks like pot-metal. Not much strength in the ends of it...

 

[Maximumwarp]

I've got something that's maybe similar. My RR door won't open at all, from the inside or the outside. The lock tab will cycle up and down with the rest of the door's locks, but the handles feel like they're detached internally. I assume it's the actuator itself that has failed, but I'm going to have an interesting time getting the door to open up in order to work on it in the first place.

 

[jordieb213]

Because the Driver's door actuator controls all other door functions, is it possible to "Jump" the harness that comes from the actuator to mimic the unlocking of the actuator?

I'd really like to unlock the other three doors and tailgate, but at the moment I cannot do so...

Let me know your thoughts,

Jordan

 

[jordieb213]

Superlock - Super lock

FIXED!!

Okay boys and ghouls, I figured it out. I've scoured the forums for any info on getting this problem solved, but it looks like many people have had this problem, and there have been almost zero posted solutions. I will post mine and hope that it happens someone else in the future.

ASSUMPTIONS:
You have already checked and verified you have good fuses.
You're actuators are not fried. If they are bad, this won't work.
You have good battery charge.


Problem:
- Originally locked out of all doors
- Can only open driver's door from the inside.
- Can't use center dash unlock/lock button. When I hit 'unlock' it makes a tiny 'tic' noise near the fuse box. When I hit 'lock' all the locks sound like they are attempting to lock.
- Can't unlock any other door using the inside handle.

Solution:
- How do you get into the car if all the doors are locked and the windows are up? I was able to pry the window frame open and after several tries I managed to wrap a lasso around the driver's door handle and pull it open. Sounds impossible, and at times it felt like it...however, I managed to do it and I'm sure you can too!

- Now that you're inside you realize you can't unlock any of the other doors...now what?! At first I thought I had a bad actuator, but in reality I had a broken tumbler pin.

- Take the door handle off...very simple task. You have to unclip the plunger that actuates when you pull the handle. Then you need to remove the ONE torx bolt/screw on the door. Then the handle will push out, use some elbow grease and it will come out with ease.

- Now, when you look into the door handle from the outside, you will see a white 'crosshair'. This is where your broken pin should be seated and allows you to lock/unlock the car.

- Take a big flathead and twist the white crosshair counterclockwise twice in a rapid manner. You have either just superlocked your Rover, or taken it out of superlock. Twist one time to the right and see if you can unlock all your doors.

You MAY be able to jump the wires from the actuator cable to get this to work if you have a bad driver's door actuator. I was not quick enough to get it out of superlock with this method, but I believe it is possible with the right tools. I will find out the exact prong numbers I used to jump if desired.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments.

:beer:

 

[bishopthomas]

This sounds like exactly the information I'm looking for, but let me run my situation by you guys to confirm. If I'm going to be disassembling my door I'd like to have all the replacement parts I need so I only have to do this once.

I only have a basic key, not the fob, and have been locking with the key in the driver side door. (By the way, how much should a replacement fob cost? I was quoted in the hundreds of dollars by the only LR dealer in NJ that can cut it.) A couple of nights ago I turned the key in the lock and it did not lock nor did I feel any resistance when turning the key. The interior lock button locks all doors except the driver's, though I can hear the actuator. When manually pressing the lock on the door it seems jammed.

It seems like a broken pin, but I just want to make sure before I start a project. Thanks!

 

[bishopthomas]

Yep, another broken pin. I was hoping to be able to get the latch rod back in place without removing the door panel but that would have been too easy. Just ordered the pin, so I'm hoping to be able to lock my doors before Christmas...

 

[jordieb213]

Yep, another broken pin. I was hoping to be able to get the latch rod back in place without removing the door panel but that would have been too easy. Just ordered the pin, so I'm hoping to be able to lock my doors before Christmas...

Hey Bishop, I'm glad you figured it out. Right now I am driving around without my exterior handle until I replace the pin. When I leave my rover, I press the 'lock' button on the dash with the driver's door shut, then I open it from the inside and leave that door unlocked. I figure with the missing handle, people won't attempt to figure out how to get in. It's easy to just reach in and push the plunger down to open the door.

As far as the key FOB goes, I have been told they are $200+ as well. I'll stick with the free manual key for now...