[Dane!]

I swear, every 1000 miles I have a check engie light come on, I keep my car 100% maintained with all fresh fluids and oils and I drive it carefully... My dad treats his rover like hell and he has 150k on it and ever maintains it... Anyone else have a problem like mine? Or are you a lucky one?

 

[redtruck12]

Hi Dane still got that wheel for you, let me know when your end of the trade is ready
As for engine light my 2000 and also my 2001 have not had engine light issues since 02 sensors were replaced, also put a front pipe with cats on the 2000 which is my every day driver, probably about 7000 miles since I have had engine light on.
What kind of codes are you getting? Same codes every time? Sounds like you may have not yet addressed the problem?

 

[cnfowler]

A few of my recent problems:
Headliner- sagging and rotted because of poor engineering and water damage.
A/C fail- Due to condenser taking a crap and a "non rust-able" A/C line rusting through, poor engineering.
Steering wheel shaking violently when hitting bumps- UNKNOWN, poor engineering.
Exhaust leak- manifold magically "wiggled loose," poor engineering.
Fog Lights Broken- poor engineering, water inside.
Rain on my head- Leaky sunroofs, poor engineering.
Rear Hatch- hard to open, poor engineering.
Another water leak- A-pillar, poor engineering.
Drivers side door- bad limiter assembly, poor engineering.
Coolant hoses brittle and shattering- Poorly made china products, poor engineering.
Dash Clock failure- poor engineering.

Lots of others within the past 5,000 miles, I just cannot list them all because I have to get some sleep.

You're funny. Sounds to me like you did a crap job in selecting a good used vehicle. I've owned 3 Land Rovers, a RR Classic, a Disco 1, and an LR3. Not a single one gave me any problems. No check engine lights, no water leaks, nothing. I obviously did a good job researching the vehicles in which I purchased used. I recommend you do the same.


Colin

 

[kbernal1016]

The number one issue we see at the shop where I work is NEGLECT.

We see so many rovers go 120-200k miles without any real issues. Real issues being things out of the ordinary; IE: things that aren't seen on other vehicles from time to time. (Like A/C issues and plastic components in the cooling system after the car reaches 100k/10yrs old.)

If your check engine light keeps coming on and on, then take it somewhere that can fix it right, and fix it right the first time. It will also save you a lot of money if you take it to a British car specialist, NOT a European car specialist.

 

[Plov]

I couldn't agree more. these vehicles are sold all over the world and do hundreds of thousands of miles without issue. The problem in the US is that they are sold as premium vehicles and the dealers charge premium rates. As a result many owners start taking their cars to Quick Lube shops and their local mechanic who do not know how to work on them. They tend to use cheaper components (which they still pay a premium for) and don't fit them right the fist time. These are not complicated vehicles, the engine is a 1960's Buick, they are body on frame with live axles.
it always makes me smile when i talk to jeep owners who go wheeling. The conversation starts with "my jeep can go anywhere you rover can" then goes into how they have replaced both axles, the trans, all the suspension. A stock Rover with good tires will go a long way.
I guess the moral is if your rovers says it broken fix it, and fix it right. If its not telling you its broken keep up with the maintenance. If your thinking of getting a rover get it thoroughly checked out. Any car that has been neglected for 10+ years will need a lot of TLC to get it back to where is should be.

 

[Racer X]

A few of my recent problems:
Headliner- sagging and rotted because of poor engineering and water damage.

That's a Land Rover feature.

A/C fail- Due to condenser taking a crap and a "non rust-able" A/C line rusting through, poor engineering.

Aluminum doesn't rust, but it will corrode if not kept clean of salt.

Steering wheel shaking violently when hitting bumps- UNKNOWN, poor engineering.

Worn suspension components that's going to leave you in a bad way if you don't address it soon. Neglect if it's gotten this far and still hasn't been addressed.

Exhaust leak- manifold magically "wiggled loose," poor engineering.

Improper reassembly following service. Neglect (maybe on the part of the tech).

Fog Lights Broken- poor engineering, water inside.

True, one of mine separated on me. Had to silicone it back together.

Rain on my head- Leaky sunroofs, poor engineering.

True.

Rear Hatch- hard to open, poor engineering.

Have you lubed the latch handle hinges? Bet you haven't...

Another water leak- A-pillar, poor engineering.

Probably sunroof related.

Drivers side door- bad limiter assembly, poor engineering.

Mine are fine, as were the ones on 3 or 4 other Discoveries that I looked at.

Coolant hoses brittle and shattering- Poorly made china products, poor engineering.

Cheap replacements breaking? Missed service interval for hoses? I think it's the latter...

Dash Clock failure- poor engineering.

True.

All that said... my DII has been rock solid for some time now. Haven't had a MIL or SRS or TC or HDC light in well over a year.

 

[disco biscuit]

My 04 pissed me off at first. It still does sometimes. Boxed frame, setup, geometry and balance make mods expensive for jeep to compare. Its a monster offroad stock with worn out springs and 20" mall crawler rim/tire combo. LR did keep the d2 narrow while providing BMW type road refinement. I can say this rover will leave that jeep crossed up at the first ditch and run 4wheeler trails. A Suzuki samurai has a better chance of leaving me in the woods than a jeep.

 

[Redrover NC]

I have had no problems that I consider Land Rover-specific since 2-1/2 years and 25,000 miles ago when the CKPS blinked out leaving me and six boy scouts stranded 100 miles from home. Last November I rebuilt the master cylinder because it was leaking but I consider that almost routine maintenance for a vehicle with now 135,000 miles. Other than that it's been only routine fluid changes.

Now, before that, back in late 2009, the truck had not been maintained as well as it should have been for a few years and I got the SES light. Changed the plugs and no misfires since. (STI wires had gone on it prior to that.) And yes, I had to change the headgaskets at 109,000 but that was due to my wife letting it overheat. And yes, it needed new O2s right after that, but again, I expect components to start failing at this mileage.

For now all is good, but I watch and listen carefully, and keep an eye on the water pump.

 

[Bosnian Discovery]

I HAVE NEVER had a vehicle with more problems. If you want to flaunt your stupidity, buy a Land Rover. If you want reliability, buy a Toyota.

:lol:

If you want to flaunt your stupidity, go to Law School.

Nobody forced you to buy an LR - that was your own decision. Some of us actually enjoy our trucks, even with all the quirks and problems. The majority of us didn't buy the cars to be zero maintenance daily drivers and we've resigned to deal with the problems as they come because it's a hobby - something we enjoy doing. Just because you're incapable of maintaining your own car doesn't mean it's the car's fault. Quit shitting on LRs in an LR forum - keep the aggression at bay, man.

 

[Paul Grant]

For the people with smart comments, let me put it like this. I owned a 2010 Range Rover Sport as well, which I purchased NEW after graduating Law School. It was in the shop AT LEAST every 5,000 miles AND NOT for routine maintenance.

Needless to say, I got tired of the crap and traded it in for a 2012 Toyota. The Toyota HAS NOT been to the shop, NOT ONCE in 112,000 MILES for anything other than routine maintenance!!!

The Discovery II is my beater truck for hauling stuff. When I say BEATER TRUCK, I mean beater truck. This truck was purchased with a clean carfax, clean title, one-owner and ALL SERVICE RECORDS from the dealer. I should have been worried when I saw how many service records there were. The blame for an under-engineered vehicle is not the fault of the first owner, but a liability of the company.

I HAVE NEVER had a vehicle with more problems. If you want to flaunt your stupidity, buy a Land Rover. If you want reliability, buy a Toyota.

Why the **** are you on this board other than to bitch, moan and whine. Or are you hoping to drum up clients for a class action suit against Rover in an effort to achieve a warped sense of satisfaction. Sell your Rover and move on. Clearly, you don't belong on a forum devoted to enthusiasts of the marque.

Talk about flaunting stupidity.

 

[Dane!]

I understand that a few things break over time, which maybe my car is at "that time". I just didn't know if I was a terrible used car buyer (which I am) or it's normal, an from the looks if it, a little of both! Didn't mean to start a land rover bashing thread, because by all means I LOVE MY ROVER, I don't care that I spend my money and time fixing it, I just wanted to know if it's normal for this many things to go, hell, I'd replace the entire engine to keep my rover, my first car, I love that I get to work on it, and have fun in it, I love to drive it... Even with the ses light on bahahaha,

 

[redtruck12]

Hey Paul don't sugar coat it...... Tell us how you really feel ��

Too funny. Girly man lawyer buys a high tech vehicle for its status at the country club and then expects it to be as simple to maintain as a bag of marbles.
Move on princess ��

 

[Dane!]

Btw redtruck, ill have that for you, I just had to fix my car again as you can see lol, but ill have that for you pretty soon.

 

[Paul Grant]

I understand that a few things break over time, which maybe my car is at "that time". I just didn't know if I was a terrible used car buyer (which I am) or it's normal, an from the looks if it, a little of both! Didn't mean to start a land rover bashing thread, because by all means I LOVE MY ROVER, I don't care that I spend my money and time fixing it, I just wanted to know if it's normal for this many things to go, hell, I'd replace the entire engine to keep my rover, my first car, I love that I get to work on it, and have fun in it, I love to drive it... Even with the ses light on bahahaha,

Dane,
Your question was valid.

The hardest thing is getting ahead of the curve in terms of repair and lapsed maintenance on an old vehicle be it a Rover or anything else for that matter. I always tell people buying a used Rover to buy the buy the best running version they can find with as much of a service history as is available. The reason being that you have a starting point from which to move forward.

Your question didn't start a Rover bashing thread, a troll did. The same troll who, on another thread baited DiscoMike and me into a conversation about trying to make a DII look more like an LR3 by removing the spare tire. A troll pretending to be a Rover enthusiast who then tells us we're all stupid for owning one. A troll whose sole purpose is to incite anger amongst true Rover enthusiasts. A troll who needs to be ignored and left to move on. More likely a teenager living in mommy's basement than the lawyer he's pretending to be.

 

[Racer X]

Why the **** are you on this board other than to bitch, moan and whine. Or are you hoping to drum up clients for a class action suit against Rover in an effort to achieve a warped sense of satisfaction. Sell your Rover and move on. Clearly, you don't belong on a forum devoted to enthusiasts of the marque.

Talk about flaunting stupidity.

SHOTS FIRED.

But yeah, this about sums it up. I his thread on another forum, he's a trollololol.

Or a moron.

Or some combo thereof.

 

[Road Stone]

No I don't think my car would do 5k with out some sort of medical attention and nor would I expect it to be honest.

It's over 13 years old and my money would be on any 13 year old 4x4 having difficulty covering 5000 miles with out tinkering or maintenance.

Cheers, Jerry

 

[pguerra75]

I just inherited my Disco II with 160k and a slew of problems, even with blown FMS, RMS and Valve cover gaskets not to mention bad O2 sensors and a failing coilpack the thing still starts without problem and pulls like it was new.(yes I have already ordered the parts to fix all this and then some )

Point being is if you take care of them they will do the same for you!

If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

 

[bd473374]

It is not possible. Land rover apparently had a difficult time turning their "off-road vehicles" into "luxury vehicles." In my opinion they are poorly engineered Jeep Knock-offs. The ONLY reason that I own one is because I wanted one when I was a child and saw them of safari shows and because I got a GREAT deal on one. I would NEVER buy one of these things new. Did you ever notice that they cost too much new yet sell for NOTHING after a few years? A Honda Civic has a better re-sale value AND MPG's.

I used to think they were such an exotic vehicle because they were so desirable. I was wrong. They are rare to see on the road simply because...they cannot stay alive yet alone be kept on the road. MONEY PITS!

EVERY mechanic I spoke to told me to stay away from these vehicles, and I still hear this today.

If you decide to hang on to the vehicle, well...all I can say is good luck and may God help you.

We are all entitled to an opinion, that's what living in a democracy allows us. Having said that, spouting negative comments about Land Rovers on a Land Rover forum is a truly brave act, or the ramblings of a totally self opinionated dipstick!!

 

[Paul Grant]

We are all entitled to an opinion, that's what living in a democracy allows us. Having said that, spouting negative comments about Land Rovers on a Land Rover forum is a truly brave act, or the ramblings of a totally self opinionated dipstick!!

It's been just about a week since the troll posted last. He's only been on this board a little over two weeks. I think his intentions were made clear by his constant baiting. Now that he's been exposed as a troll, he's long gone.

 

[j887276]

It's been just about a week since the troll posted last. He's only been on this board a little over two weeks. I think his intentions were made clear by his constant baiting. Now that he's been exposed as a troll, he's long gone.

I answered a simple question from a non-biased stand point. I am not a lover of any one brand. A car is a car. Period. NON-BIASED.

If you want to off-road, buy a jeep. If you want to commute, buy a Prius. If you want to race, buy a race car. If you have a family, buy a van.

Sporting an under-powered, dated V-8 mated to a 4-speed gearbox, obtaining an astonishing 13 MPG average with loads of documented issues, not to mention the re-sale value, where does this vehicle fit?

Nevermore, you "enthusiast" need to focus on the question at hand, as it appears that this thread was not meant to get anyone's panties up in a bunch. A member had a question. Answer it. Grow up people.

Cheerio!