[HeadlinerExpress]

:wave: I'm new to your site, but i'm sure i can be of some help for all you having Headliner & Sunroof problems.

This is what i do for a living for the past 25 years and i'm willing to help answer any questions you may have.

I'll do my best to keep up with your questions, but please remember i'm still in my Season Full Time here in Florida and keep several weeks in advance doing Headliner & Sunroof repair on: Volvo,Saab,Jaguar,BMW,Porsche,Mercedes,Land Rover,Audi & VW all with Factory Sunroofs.

I service: Landrover of Orlando
Island Landrover in ( Merritt Island)

Bill Stauffer
Headliner Express
Winter Park,Fla
407 786-4090

 

[cody]

My headliner on my 99 Disco II is starting to sag over the front passenger side it's not bad yet but is there a way to fix the problem before it gets worse? The sun roof doesn't appear too be leaking. Thank you ----- Cody

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

Cody, The only way to resolve this problem is to totally remove and replace the Headliner
Material on your Headliner Board.

Here are some of the Do it Your Self Remedies other have tried such as:

#1 - spraying contact cement behind the cloth
#2 - Injecting the Headliner Material with a syringe & Adhesive
#3 - Thumb Tacks
#4 - Rhino Liner
#5 - Garage Floor Paint

In your case of wanting to slow down the problem at the front windshield would be to use #3 Thumb Tacks, they will do the least amount of damage to your Headliner Board and will help hold up the headliner material from getting wind in behind and causing the material from coming down faster.

The only thing the Thumb Tacks will hurt will be your Pride!

I can Teach you how to Remove and Replace your Headliner Material and Water Test your Vehicle for water Leaks before re-installing your Newly Recovered Headliner Board.

Let me know how i can help in any way. Bill

 

[sfl4x4]

Bill,

Hope this post finds you doing well. Not sure if you remember me but we spoke back before New Years about my Disco II leaks and headliner. I am here in South Florida if that rings a bell. Anyway, lets talk soon so we can figure out the best way to proceed.

Forum members,

Bill is the real deal when it comes to sunroofs and headliners. Very knowledgeable and on the up and up....

 

[Rodewaryer]

Is there any way to do a headliner in a material or surfacing that is permanent? Like fiberglassing it or coating it with something other than temporary fabric? I'm done doing/redoing headliners in the Discovery and can't believe there isn't a better way.....

 

[iambhooper]

Bill, I'm looking at buy a Disco 1. It needs a new headliner, what is a good "ballpark" price to pay to have it done? I'm capable, but don't have the time to tackle that job right now.

Thanks!
hoop

 

[DiscoDream2]

It maybe more cost effective and less time (repairing etc) to try to find aother dI with a good headliner and buy it from them...hmm good headliner a contradiction in terms.

 

[lennonjon]

Hi all,

I figured this would be a good thread to post this question to:

I am reinstalling my sunroofs after taking them out for cleaning. I noticed that when taking them off the Disco the upper tray was pretty-well glued/sealed to the top. Should I be refitting them with some sort of sealant (e.g., silicone)?

Salud,
Jon

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

I would recommend using Permatex® Ultra Black® Maximum Oil Resistance RTV Silicone Gasket Maker.

Its designed for High Temperatures

This is a product we use in my shop when we remove discovery sunroofs for either repair or replacement.

http://www.permatex.com/products/au..._oil_resistance_rtv_silicone_gasket_maker.htm

If you have any other questions just ask. Bill

 

[lennonjon]

Hi Bill,

After speaking with you the other day I went-out and bought some Permatex high-heat silicone. Since I wasn't sure which to buy, and remembering that you said to make sure it was high heat and stays flexible, I got the one that said "remains flexible" on the front of the packaging (Permatex® High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket). Unfortunately, it is red and there are a few spots where red silicone oozed-out (not a big deal). I water tested it yesterday and everything stayed dry.

Thanks for the help!

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

Hi Bill,

After speaking with you the other day I went-out and bought some Permatex high-heat silicone. Since I wasn't sure which to buy, and remembering that you said to make sure it was high heat and stays flexible, I got the one that said "remains flexible" on the front of the packaging (Permatex® High-Temp Red RTV Silicone Gasket). Unfortunately, it is red and there are a few spots where red silicone oozed-out (not a big deal). I water tested it yesterday and everything stayed dry.

Thanks for the help!

Your Welcome, Anytime i Can be of help just ask!

Red, Blue, Black as long as its the High Temp you got the right stuff!

For resolving the oozed-out of the silicon between the Roof of your Vehicle and the Sunroofs Trim Ring, "when it cures" use a straight edge razor blade and carefully remove the access .

Bill

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

Bill, I'm looking at buy a Disco 1. It needs a new headliner, what is a good "ballpark" price to pay to have it done? I'm capable, but don't have the time to tackle that job right now.

Thanks!
hoop

Price is not as important as it is to have someone with knowledge working on your vehicle, Prices can range from what ever your willing to pay!

For your knowledge:

1) Discovery I & II Headliner Boards at their widest point measure 62" (inches)

2) Most Shops use either 54" or 60" (Both to short in width to do the job!)

3) Make sure when the Headliner Board is out to be recovered to have the shop (Water Test the Exterior of Your Vehicle before the Headliner Board goes back in to make sure their are no other water leaks.)

4)Job should take only 3-4 Hours, Not 3-4 Days!

5) Dual Sunroofs make the job easier not harder and more expensive!

6) Installing the Correct 1/8th inch Headliner Material on a Land Rover Discovery with ("No Sunroofs is more Difficult") to do than with Dual Sunroofs, Watch out for the inexperienced Trim Shop that will try to Mislead you to think otherwise.

I can teach you what you need to know to get the best results for your $ even if you have not done this before, because of your lack of knowledge enables me to to teach you how to install the Material Your Self, No bad habits to break.

What my company charges to do a job of this nature does not compare to what you get elsewhere. We have been servicing Land Rover for over 20 Years. You get 100% of our Knowledge and in many cases end up doing repairs along the way that would be overlooked by company's or Do-It-Your-Selfers with less knowledge.

Ask lots of Questions

1) How long does the job Take?

2) What Type of materials and what are the widths of the Material

3)Have you ever worked on a Discovery Headliner before and if so can you provide me with a Referral Phone number to a satisfied Discovery Customer you have done work for in the past!

4) Is their a Additional Cost because having Dual Sunroofs, If they say Yes, Get off the Phone and Call someone else

I could go on and on, feel free to contact me anytime, Hope this helps you in some way. Bill

 

[lisa]

Hi,

just bought a 1997 discovery 300 tdi and the owner had removed the cloth frm the headlining as the sunroofs had leaked and the material sagged badly however he got in a muddle trying to glue it back on so threw it away not sure what to do with it can i buy the cloth and redo it or do you have to replace the whole thing?If i found where to get the cloth wouldnt have a clue how to do it either it has 2 sunroofs in it.

any advice would be great thanks.

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

Lisa, I can teach you how to install the material your self, unlike one would think its easier to recover a dual sunroof headliner board than a Non-Sunroof Model!

You mentioned Water Leaks, were these issues ever Resolved, If not they will need to be addressed and fixed before a new Headliner goes back into the Vehicle. Bill

 

[lisa]

Hi Bill,

thanks foryour reply much appreciated

the old owner has replaced the rubber seals round the sunroofs and has tightened them so they do not leak any more so thats one less problem to worry about

not sure where i can get the cloth and necessary items to do the job i put a search in google but didnt find what i was looking for.

:dunno:

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

click on my one of my link's on my signature line

 

[Fuzzy]

how do i get the headliner out? i don't see any fasteners do i need to pull all the plastic out to get to the fasteners for the headliner?

 

[Fungc]

Hi Bill,

I have a range rover 2003 model, and the sunroof does not close in full (tilted downward slightly at the rear). Just wondering how do I repair it?

Thank you very much for your help.

Chris

 

[scotthoughton]

Headliner Removal

Can you walk me through the removal of the front headliner so that I can access the drain tubes on the sunroof tray? I know that the right drain tube has been broken, I live in a rainy area and the leak is getting unbearable. Thank you. The model is a 2000 LR Disco II.

 

[HeadlinerExpress]

You will need to Remove Your Sun Visors, Overhead Plastic Console ( Front ), Grab Handles, "A" "B" Post, Rear Plastic Overhead Console (Rear) When Removing the Rear Sunroof Switch from the Plastic Console theirs a Phillips Head Screw Located Behind the Switch that holds the Console to the Roof of the Vehicle that will need to be removed as well as the wires for the AC Controler and Dome Light all located behind the (Rear Console)

Heres a link to over 100 Pictures of processing a Discovery Headliner that should be very helpful.

landrover Discovery Series I & II Headliner Replacment pictures from friends & fun photos on webshots

If you need additional information please feel free to email me at [email protected]

Bill