It's not quite that simple. Have you considered that in the event you don't run a micro-fueller to supply the extra fuel needed when you engage the blower, your going to have to run a high as possible octane fuel all the time, and if your motor starts pinking in the higher rev range, even run a richer fuel setting, requiring more frequent plug changes.Adam in NYC USA said:
Ignition coil upgrades
Does anyone have any ideas on this?
I'm getting a HD alternator and an 8mm magnacore wire set, upgrading to a 2 gage battery wire and may look into some HD batteries (later). I'll stick to stock plugs for now, but wanted to know if there's anything I can do with the ignition coil...
Thanks guys!
I'm getting a HD alternator and an 8mm magnacore wire set, upgrading to a 2 gage battery wire and may look into some HD batteries (later). I'll stick to stock plugs for now, but wanted to know if there's anything I can do with the ignition coil...
Thanks guys!
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Just paid for my setup so as soon as I have it here and installed ill post the findings in the new year. Main reason for me needing/wanting one is for when im towing, most of the time im flat out up kinda steep hills that tend to go on for about 5-10kms and the old 3.5 engine tends to struggle a bit. The weight inc the trailer will be arround the 3 ton mark!!!!
Response from Boosthead.com
In a message dated 11/26/2005 5:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
HERE IS SOME INFO:
OUR 2006 MODEL ESCH WILL BE AVAILABLE IN 60-90 DAYS. IT WILL GIVE 5 PSI BOOST ON ENGINES UP TO 6.0 LITERS, OR UP TO 15 PSI ON SMALLER ENGINES. THE UNIT WILL BE $1995 FOR THE SUPERCHARGER AND CONTROLLER. IT WILL FEATURE A HIGH EFFICIENCY MOTOR CAPABLE OF UP TO 25HP AND A DIGITAL CONTROLLER ALLOWING THE THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR TO ACTIVATE IT, AND EITHER KNOB ADJUSTMENTS OR LAPTOP PROGRAMMED CONTROLS FOR THE RPM, IT COMES ON, ETC. THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL $500 IN BATTERIES, CABLES, ETC REQUIRED. THIS DESIGN IS ULTRA-HIGH-TECH, AND WILL REVOLUTIONIZE THE PERFORMANCE WORLD BECAUSE THE MOTOR IS 90% EFFICIENT MEANING THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO HEAT LOSS (STANDARD MOTORS ARE 50%-65% EFFICIENT). WE ARE MAINLY DEVELOPING IT FOR RV OWNERS AS WELL AS PICKUP TRUCK OWNERS FOR TOWING. THE COPPER-CORE MOTORS HAVE AN OPTIONAL FAN-COOLING SYSTEM FOR EXTENDED USE (LIKE AN RV PULLING A GRADE ON A MOUNTAIN FOR 10 MINUTES, ETC). INSTALLATION WILL BE QUITE SIMPLE. I AM PLACING YOU INTO A FOLDER FOR NOTIFICATION ONCE IT IS READY.
THOMAS (GEOFF) KNIGHT
THOMAS KNIGHT TURBOS
BOOSTHEAD.COM
786-243-2000
22050 SW 155 AVE
MIAMI, FL 33170
Adam in NYC
I wrote an quick email and got a response, which I am sharing here:Adam in NYC USA said:I wrote an email to see what luck and effort the gent has had with his version of an electric supercharger on larger displacement engines. He has used this in domestic and import platforms and I , for one, would be interested what he has done for a similar stock 4.0L.
In a message dated 11/26/2005 5:35:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
I AM WELL VERSED IN THE 215 BUICK/ROVER, AND HAVE BUILT SEVERAL HIGH HP VERSIONS--BOTH 3.5, 3.9, AND 4.4 LITER WITH THE 300 ALUMINUM HEADS AND CRANK IN IT. OUR 2006 MODEL (ESC-550) WILL BE PERFECT.Adam in NYC USA said:Hello from Adam in NYC
I am the owner of a 1996 Land Rover Discovery 1. Mine is The North
American Spec engine , a 4.0 liter, originally a 1964 Buick engine
aluminum block connected to an automatic tranny.
I wonder how your product would work under my circumstances. I am
looking for a modest boost for street purposes. Any information you
might have and pricing would be invaluable.
Adam Vazquez
HERE IS SOME INFO:
OUR 2006 MODEL ESCH WILL BE AVAILABLE IN 60-90 DAYS. IT WILL GIVE 5 PSI BOOST ON ENGINES UP TO 6.0 LITERS, OR UP TO 15 PSI ON SMALLER ENGINES. THE UNIT WILL BE $1995 FOR THE SUPERCHARGER AND CONTROLLER. IT WILL FEATURE A HIGH EFFICIENCY MOTOR CAPABLE OF UP TO 25HP AND A DIGITAL CONTROLLER ALLOWING THE THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR TO ACTIVATE IT, AND EITHER KNOB ADJUSTMENTS OR LAPTOP PROGRAMMED CONTROLS FOR THE RPM, IT COMES ON, ETC. THERE WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL $500 IN BATTERIES, CABLES, ETC REQUIRED. THIS DESIGN IS ULTRA-HIGH-TECH, AND WILL REVOLUTIONIZE THE PERFORMANCE WORLD BECAUSE THE MOTOR IS 90% EFFICIENT MEANING THERE IS VIRTUALLY NO HEAT LOSS (STANDARD MOTORS ARE 50%-65% EFFICIENT). WE ARE MAINLY DEVELOPING IT FOR RV OWNERS AS WELL AS PICKUP TRUCK OWNERS FOR TOWING. THE COPPER-CORE MOTORS HAVE AN OPTIONAL FAN-COOLING SYSTEM FOR EXTENDED USE (LIKE AN RV PULLING A GRADE ON A MOUNTAIN FOR 10 MINUTES, ETC). INSTALLATION WILL BE QUITE SIMPLE. I AM PLACING YOU INTO A FOLDER FOR NOTIFICATION ONCE IT IS READY.
THOMAS (GEOFF) KNIGHT
THOMAS KNIGHT TURBOS
BOOSTHEAD.COM
786-243-2000
22050 SW 155 AVE
MIAMI, FL 33170
Adam in NYC
Very interesting Adam, it explains how the thing is controlled. Will you be getting one?
I couldn't find any mention of it during a search. Is it a device you stick into the air intake?Craig said:Just paid for my setup so as soon as I have it here and installed ill post the findings in the new year. Main reason for me needing/wanting one is for when im towing, most of the time im flat out up kinda steep hills that tend to go on for about 5-10kms and the old 3.5 engine tends to struggle a bit. The weight inc the trailer will be arround the 3 ton mark!!!!
I would like to, love them gadgets, gotta pay the Christmas bills and the electricity first. Maybe when the taxes come back early next year. But the extra batteries,OY! Just what I need, some more energiser rabbits hiding in the Land Rover.Disco said:Very interesting Adam, it explains how the thing is controlled. Will you be getting one?
I just want the kick for those short ramps and when passing uphill. I know I will be needing it about .05% of the time.
Adam in NYC :drive:
Hey Disco, type a search on e-Bay in the motoring section with the words "SAVE GAS" and that should show heaps of them. I have also orded the electric supercharger plus the K&N filter, may or may not install it. I guess it all depends after iv looked into the fundamentals first!!! wether I use it or not...... Dont want to blow anything but hey, if it can be broken, im ya man 
I had a look as you suggested Craig. I only comment I will make is that the Snake Oil salesmen have discovered Ebay.
Cheers Disco, well, if its a total loss ill simply post it him right back along with crap feedback, I dont need the money, so if it is a joke item and he needs the $25.00 more than me hes welcome to it will post the results as soon as its arrives OK....
will post the results as soon as its arrives OK....Disco, might be of some interest, some VW diesel cars and vans run electric Turbochargers, made out of some sort of plastic, very light, dont seem to pull much juice, don't need extra batteries, they certainly pump some air, probably some available at the wreckers, Regards Frank.Disco said:I had a look as you suggested Craig. I only comment I will make is that the Snake Oil salesmen have discovered Ebay.
Hi Franks, I think what DISCO is talking about is the unit that fits inside the air intake, not the supercharger unit. I know the electronic superchargers do work for sure and thats why I orded one off e-Bay, still not too sure if ill fit it but hey I just need to be 110% sure its not going to kill anything else under the hood.......
Craig, I don't think you will have any problems running the electric supercharger as it's an on demand system, however, you may still need to run a high as possible octane fuel to prevent 'pinking' when you do engage the system. Lets know what you think of it when it arrives, as I'm very fond of superchargers.
Will do mate, just have to sus out how to connect it to the kick down system thats on mine (ill take a look next week as im moveing house this week) As for the "Save Gas" unit.... well, very poss a no go but hey, worth a shot!!! The truck goes way better after fitting that Blaster 2 coil I must say, a bit more zip and yep you notice it straight-away I also put in a fuel injection cleaner and that seems to have blown out a few cobwebs too. Catch ya soon, Craig.
Well guys, it came last saturday and here are the results from this weeks general running, I have covered 1,840kms this week:
Time to fit, 5 mins.
Cost, $25.00 inc freight ($36.00 NZD)
MPG prior fitting, 18mpg (UK Gal) on freeway/motorway.
MPG after fitting unit, 24mpg (UK Gal) on freeway/motorway.
MPG towing 2.1 tons inc trailer prior to fitting unit, 14.6mpg (UK Gal)
MPG towing 2.1 tons inc trailer after fitting, 18.9mpg (UK Gal)
So hey, it works not too sure re the extra 16% power it is said to give but it runs very smooth now. I recon 16% is so small its just not worth counting!!! No more issues with the idle too so that makes me smile big time. Just a wait now for the electric supercharger to arrive and see if that make a diff :dunno:
Time to fit, 5 mins.
Cost, $25.00 inc freight ($36.00 NZD)
MPG prior fitting, 18mpg (UK Gal) on freeway/motorway.
MPG after fitting unit, 24mpg (UK Gal) on freeway/motorway.
MPG towing 2.1 tons inc trailer prior to fitting unit, 14.6mpg (UK Gal)
MPG towing 2.1 tons inc trailer after fitting, 18.9mpg (UK Gal)
So hey, it works
not too sure re the extra 16% power it is said to give but it runs very smooth now. I recon 16% is so small its just not worth counting!!! No more issues with the idle too so that makes me smile big time. Just a wait now for the electric supercharger to arrive and see if that make a diff :dunno:Excellent, glad to hear it's working well for ya
Cheers Felix, I must admit, I was so sure id just bought into a scam but after many miles and sore fingers on the calculator it came up with very good results Land Rover quote this model as doing 13.9 mpg round town so I recon im getting a good deal here
Land Rover quote this model as doing 13.9 mpg round town so I recon im getting a good deal here
Well fellas, the supercharger came yesterday and iv been bouncing emails back & forth to the company who carnt give me a straight answer to save there life re the installation. The Disco 1 system on mine (1993 3.5 V8i) is like this:
Standard air filter unit, then the air control unit, then 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
The customer service guy said first to put it in place of the air filter, I mailed him and said hey, what about the air control unit, he mailed back and said just put it after the air control unit and it should be fine but place it as close to the main throttle body as poss. This means I have 2x air intakes and am I correct in thinking the air control wont have a clue what the heck is going on (or am I missing something)......
I know its not a complicated unit, afterall is said and done its just a fan with 2x wires to connect to a switch but getting a clear indication where or which part of my system to install it in is just winding me up!!!!
H E L P !!!!!!!!!!
Standard air filter unit, then the air control unit, then 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
The customer service guy said first to put it in place of the air filter, I mailed him and said hey, what about the air control unit, he mailed back and said just put it after the air control unit and it should be fine but place it as close to the main throttle body as poss. This means I have 2x air intakes and am I correct in thinking the air control wont have a clue what the heck is going on (or am I missing something)......
I know its not a complicated unit, afterall is said and done its just a fan with 2x wires to connect to a switch but getting a clear indication where or which part of my system to install it in is just winding me up!!!!
H E L P !!!!!!!!!!
Standard air filter unit, tYour supercharger kit, the air control unit, 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.Craig said:Well fellas, the supercharger came yesterday and iv been bouncing emails back & forth to the company who carnt give me a straight answer to save there life re the installation. The Disco 1 system on mine (1993 3.5 V8i) is like this:
Standard air filter unit, then the air control unit, then 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
The customer service guy said first to put it in place of the air filter, I mailed him and said hey, what about the air control unit, he mailed back and said just put it after the air control unit and it should be fine but place it as close to the main throttle body as poss. This means I have 2x air intakes and am I correct in thinking the air control wont have a clue what the heck is going on (or am I missing something)......
I know its not a complicated unit, afterall is said and done its just a fan with 2x wires to connect to a switch but getting a clear indication where or which part of my system to install it in is just winding me up!!!!
H E L P !!!!!!!!!!
Install and disconnect and reconnect the battery. The ECU will need to retrain with the new addon.
Adam in NYC
Cheers Adam,
Quote: Standard air filter unit, tYour supercharger kit, the air control unit, 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
So I do-away with the standard air filter altogether as the supercharger already has a filter on it!!!
Will the "Air Control Unit cope OK you think...
Quote: Standard air filter unit, tYour supercharger kit, the air control unit, 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
So I do-away with the standard air filter altogether as the supercharger already has a filter on it!!!
Will the "Air Control Unit cope OK you think...
It is up to you. If the replacement filter looks up to the task and is of good quality, then use it. The "sport compact racing" filters are fine until the engine heat dries out the glue used to keep it together. They then fall apart.Craig said:Cheers Adam,
Quote: Standard air filter unit, tYour supercharger kit, the air control unit, 12" of ducting/hose, then the main throttle body.
So I do-away with the standard air filter altogether as the supercharger already has a filter on it!!!
Will the "Air Control Unit cope OK you think...
Install it first and try it out first. Later on, you can get a better filter. Or you can use the stock box but then you start running out of room.
Think of it as a snorkel installation. Would you want to make a hole in the fender so you can get access to the outside cold air?
As for the MAF, the computer will do all the compensation but it would be a good idea to either reset it with the scantool or by simply pulling the fuse to the ECU and wait one minute and then replace the fuse.
Let the engine idle for a few minutes and then let it warm up and then go to your "test range" and try it out.
Adam in NYC
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