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2005 HSE, 92k, previously running perfectly:

The wife said Friday when she turned onto our street that the LR3 started "shaking". She pulled in into the garage and shut it off. Didn't tell me about it until Saturday morning when it wouldn't start. No codes, just cranks and cranks. Want to start, fires for half a second, but wont run.

Yesterday I have it hauled to a indy shop (supposed to be great with imports, but I have no personal experience with them) Guy calls me today and tells me he thinks I need a new engine. Confirmed the no start condition, and went straight to a compression test. Said he tested cylinders 1 and 4, and got 40 and 50 psi. Suspects a catastrophic failure of the timing system. When I mentioned it has a chain, he replied it has both a chain and a belt.

Im getting a second opinion, just hoping someone here with can give me something to hope for.
 

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So I just spoke to the tech instead of the service manager. Said he did confirm the engine was getting spark and fuel. He thinks it jumped time, but he didn't think it was an interference engine. That would be a much better (cheaper) outcome.

Can anyone confirm weather or not the 4.4l is an interference engine?
 

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go to a Land Rover Indie shop
 

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Quick update...

Washed cylinder walls is exactly what I think is causing the low compression. When i was troubleshooting it in my garage Saturday morning I ended up turning it over so many times it drained the battery. So all the fuel that was dumped on top of the cylinders during that cranking sat there for 3 days before I could get it to the shop. The tech told me that when he added some oil to the cylinder it took the psi from 40 to 80 instantly. Not to mention hes compression testing a cold engine. I didn't make the connection at the time, but after a few days of mulling it over, washed cylinders sounds much more plausible than the engine "jumping time", or mysteriously cooking the rings in all 8 cylinders.

So if that's the case it solves the low compression. I still have the issue of the no start to deal with, but my money is still on my original bet of a crank position sensor there.

Overall I'm really disappointed that the "reputed import specialist" came to the conclusion that low compression means I need new engine.
 

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Did they read out diagnostic codes ? Just because a shop dies " imports" does not mean they are good. Find reputable jag/land rover mechanic that has been dealer trained on diagnostic equipment in last 10 years. I had a bmw and saw some awful things at specialist indies - like the 60 y/o guy with 30 years experience that told me my car would not start - I had to come to his shop - lifted engine cover - found air intake not closed properly -,or another indie that hired a mechanic from jiffy lube who stripped all the bolts on a transmission pan of another car while I was waiting for mine - and then Mis diagnosed front end clunk - told me loose under tray - that turned out to be sway bar drop links ...

Dealers not much better - they put 18 y/o on transmission flush and let me drive off without refilling it ....

Hard to find a really good mechanic -
 

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I'm sorry you have had some horrible experiences like that alpaca. That is crazy. P8nt, as SafariDave said you should really take it to a good LR shop to have them properly diagnose the issue. These engines typically don't have issues like this at that mileage. I have seen many that have twice that mileage and are experiencing nothing of the sort. That's not to say it couldn't happen, however it is unlikely. I don't know where you are located, but if you are in the Portland, OR area I'd be happy to take a look at it for you.
 
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