doesn't surprise. those things are designed for towing. wicked stiff suspension, hugely long wheelbases. They weren't designed for off-road use. The D90 sure as hell was/is!appstatedisco said:i have a few buddies that went to my high school that had lifted d90's that looked kinna like that, not nearly as muddy though. They were wimps and hardly ever took them off-road. we had a 4x4 trail that ran between our soccer and football fields that went behind a nearby neighborhood, we would always go wheelin after school and before football practice, d90's hold their own against heavy duty lifted diesels, bronco's, and tahoe's.