My freelander 01 has a head gasket problem and it needs to be replaced. I read in so many forum that it seems like it is a very common problem with freelander. Does the landrover have overcome this head gasket problem or we just need to replace it every now and then? Is there a better non-rover part to get rid of this gasket problem for good? Well if none how do I need to do to keep this problem away?
K Series head gasket problem
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Its an common overheating problem of this Rover K series engine.
I was there few months ago, (out of warranty) and i know how you feel.
You have to be there when they ll replace your headgasket.
Be sure that you havent any scratches on head's or the block's contact surface. If you have any scratches, your gasket or the whole head will fail again.
Also its good to change the 10 enginehead bolts. Using the same bolts, in an overheated aluminium engine head, can cause the headgasket to fail again.
Another problem is that sometimes, cause of bad temp sensor, the engine is toasted when you driving, but your temp gauge its in the normal area, right in the middle. ( Its a BMW design )
By the way, have you ever see your temp gauge exceed the normal area ?
Finally i did a couple of things in order to protect my new headgasket.
1. Replace Water Pump
2. Replace Temp valve
3. Replace water tank and water cap
4. Replace water valve
Dont forget to check every week the water and oil level and any suspect sound under the hood (Specially like boiling water or bubbles)
Dont push the throttle more than 3.000 rpms until you got 90° Oil Temp, and never park the car with a hot engine after a hot ride, let it cool down to 100° before you turn engine off.
Good luck.
I was there few months ago, (out of warranty) and i know how you feel.
You have to be there when they ll replace your headgasket.
Be sure that you havent any scratches on head's or the block's contact surface. If you have any scratches, your gasket or the whole head will fail again.
Also its good to change the 10 enginehead bolts. Using the same bolts, in an overheated aluminium engine head, can cause the headgasket to fail again.
Another problem is that sometimes, cause of bad temp sensor, the engine is toasted when you driving, but your temp gauge its in the normal area, right in the middle. ( Its a BMW design )
By the way, have you ever see your temp gauge exceed the normal area ?
Finally i did a couple of things in order to protect my new headgasket.
1. Replace Water Pump
2. Replace Temp valve
3. Replace water tank and water cap
4. Replace water valve
Dont forget to check every week the water and oil level and any suspect sound under the hood (Specially like boiling water or bubbles)
Dont push the throttle more than 3.000 rpms until you got 90° Oil Temp, and never park the car with a hot engine after a hot ride, let it cool down to 100° before you turn engine off.
Good luck.
Hi Hippo,
Thanks for the info. How many km has your done? Mine is only 52,000km. Do i need to change the thermistor?
Yes, my temp gauge is right in the middle. Btw, is the problem because of faulty head gasket or because overheating caused by any others.
Thanks for the info. How many km has your done? Mine is only 52,000km. Do i need to change the thermistor?
Yes, my temp gauge is right in the middle. Btw, is the problem because of faulty head gasket or because overheating caused by any others.
Mine failed at 55.000 kms.
I suggest you to change the thermistor and those little parts, dont forget the 10 head bolts too.
My mistake, i wrote about water valve, there isn't any water valve, i mean thermistor.
Your gasket failed because your engine overheated, it happens to the most 1.8 K between 50.000-60.000 kms on clock.
As for your temp gauge, terrible design by the BMW engineers... Works fine untill you reach the normal temp. Then stucks on the middle and does not move even if your engine becomes a barbecue... Really terrible. You can only replace your little temp valve, its a cheap one and you ll have more reliable indications. This also happens on series 3 older BMWs.
I suggest you to change the thermistor and those little parts, dont forget the 10 head bolts too.
My mistake, i wrote about water valve, there isn't any water valve, i mean thermistor.
Your gasket failed because your engine overheated, it happens to the most 1.8 K between 50.000-60.000 kms on clock.
As for your temp gauge, terrible design by the BMW engineers... Works fine untill you reach the normal temp. Then stucks on the middle and does not move even if your engine becomes a barbecue... Really terrible. You can only replace your little temp valve, its a cheap one and you ll have more reliable indications. This also happens on series 3 older BMWs.
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K-Series
My advice is do not get too stuck into putting alot of your own cash and stress into it!! Land Rover is more than aware of the problem and will generaly replace the faulty bit like the head ,temp sensors and the like free of charge!It depends on how far from the end of warranty you are.
For an 01 reg you should be ok due to the fact that was the biggest problem year. My secretary had the exact same problem as about 4 thousand others and got all repaired free twice on the same reg vehicle. MG had the same isse because they used the same engine in their cars.MG hwever did not stand behind a majority of the head gasket issues and ended up stiching up the customer. Land Rover should stand behind the k series issue without fail!!!
If you have any issues try Harwoods in Surrey they have done my secretary car twice for the same issue. If you keep replacing stuff on your own money without Land Rover knowing they may be less likely to put it straight. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My advice is do not get too stuck into putting alot of your own cash and stress into it!! Land Rover is more than aware of the problem and will generaly replace the faulty bit like the head ,temp sensors and the like free of charge!It depends on how far from the end of warranty you are. For an 01 reg you should be ok due to the fact that was the biggest problem year. My secretary had the exact same problem as about 4 thousand others and got all repaired free twice on the same reg vehicle. MG had the same isse because they used the same engine in their cars.MG hwever did not stand behind a majority of the head gasket issues and ended up stiching up the customer. Land Rover should stand behind the k series issue without fail!!!
If you have any issues try Harwoods in Surrey they have done my secretary car twice for the same issue. If you keep replacing stuff on your own money without Land Rover knowing they may be less likely to put it straight. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well mine is 01 model too, 1 year out of warranty and the LR dealers in Greece asked me 600 euros for this "common issue".
Series 3 guy, if the problem persists twice (!!) this means that they didnt replace these stuff too on the first head gasket replacement.
I think you may prepare your secretary for 3rd head gasket replacement soon.
Series 3 guy, if the problem persists twice (!!) this means that they didnt replace these stuff too on the first head gasket replacement.
I think you may prepare your secretary for 3rd head gasket replacement soon.
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Actualy the problem has been resolved free of charge.Has over 32k on new gasket!!She has a new headasket and it was made clear that if it happens a third time she will have the option of a new engine or a discounted brand new Freelander.That what happens when you purchase from an authorised dealer through land rover finance. Think you should challenge your dealership.Ensure they are authorised.Just because they sell landy's doesnt mean they are authorised.They could be a second or third pary sales franchise.Europe is full of them.Hippo said:
Well.. Rollcar S.A. is the official Land Rover Dealer in Greece.
There isnt any other Land Rover dealer "more" official than that.
Also, i dont want to replace headgaskets all the time. Its terrible.
Glad to hear that in your country you can have a new engine or a new Freelander free of charge, even if youre out of warranty (!!)
but if this common issue happens here and youre out of warranty... you have to pay.
There isnt any other Land Rover dealer "more" official than that.
Also, i dont want to replace headgaskets all the time. Its terrible.
Glad to hear that in your country you can have a new engine or a new Freelander
free of charge, even if youre out of warranty (!!) but if this common issue happens here and youre out of warranty... you have to pay.
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Sorry about that. I wish i could help out.Good Luck with your Freelander.Maybe trade it in on a Disco or something else like a defender.They usualy don't suffer the same probs as a Freelander. Like I said...Good luck mate.Hippo said:Well.. Rollcar S.A. is the official Land Rover Dealer in Greece.
There isnt any other Land Rover dealer "more" official than that.
Also, i dont want to replace headgaskets all the time. Its terrible.
Glad to hear that in your country you can have a new engine or a new Freelander
but if this common issue happens here and youre out of warranty... you have to pay.
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Freelander Head Gasket problem
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Hi
No replacing the HG is not the answer I'm afraid you need an engine replacement & because they will fit the same engine (probably a recon) It is only a matter of time before that too fails. Now read on I've carried the bulk of my post over from another so whilst it may not appear at first to address your problem, in a way it does. Before I start let me say that I have been a LR devotee for ever. For goodness sake they invented the 4wd for everyday use in the form of the Range Rover much like Renualt invented the people carrier. In the last 2 years I've had 3 Discovery's, my current is a series ll V8i Auto Premuim with all the toy's So I believe my LR credentials are as good as anyone
Now to the reason for my post.
I fully understand Fords threats there is a great deal of dis-satisfation amongst owners & one of the primary reasons for the dis-satisfaction is the Freelander (primarily the petrol version) because of it's propencity to overheat thereby ruining the Engine (amongst other things the cyl liners slip & the HG fails). The engine has a well known design fault (identified by LR & Rover Group 4-5 years ago). Nevertheless LR continued to supply it & still do as a replacement with the result that it to fails again. Customer dis-satisfaction is compounded by LR's attempts to avoid their legal obligations to owners. Until very recently owners acted alone allowing LR to pick them off. An action committee has been formed & one of the 1st things we have noticed (& fully expected) amongst owners who have registered how owners in identical circumstance received wildly different treatment from LR. We are only able to identify this conduct by LR because each claim is being identified in relation to the others.
If anyone would like to tell us about their experiences please go to the website at http://freelander.webhop.co.uk or type freelander head gasket problem. Thanks
Hi
No replacing the HG is not the answer I'm afraid you need an engine replacement & because they will fit the same engine (probably a recon) It is only a matter of time before that too fails. Now read on I've carried the bulk of my post over from another so whilst it may not appear at first to address your problem, in a way it does. Before I start let me say that I have been a LR devotee for ever. For goodness sake they invented the 4wd for everyday use in the form of the Range Rover much like Renualt invented the people carrier. In the last 2 years I've had 3 Discovery's, my current is a series ll V8i Auto Premuim with all the toy's So I believe my LR credentials are as good as anyone
Now to the reason for my post.
I fully understand Fords threats there is a great deal of dis-satisfation amongst owners & one of the primary reasons for the dis-satisfaction is the Freelander (primarily the petrol version) because of it's propencity to overheat thereby ruining the Engine (amongst other things the cyl liners slip & the HG fails). The engine has a well known design fault (identified by LR & Rover Group 4-5 years ago). Nevertheless LR continued to supply it & still do as a replacement with the result that it to fails again. Customer dis-satisfaction is compounded by LR's attempts to avoid their legal obligations to owners. Until very recently owners acted alone allowing LR to pick them off. An action committee has been formed & one of the 1st things we have noticed (& fully expected) amongst owners who have registered how owners in identical circumstance received wildly different treatment from LR. We are only able to identify this conduct by LR because each claim is being identified in relation to the others.
If anyone would like to tell us about their experiences please go to the website at http://freelander.webhop.co.uk or type freelander head gasket problem. Thanks
Engine Problems
I don't believe it! My Freelander 1.8S petrol engine 'K' series has given up!! The water reservoir was empty and it just would not start. I've towed it to my nearest garage that deals in genuine land Rover parts. The engine has only done 36,200 miles and just gone over 3yrs back in February!! Unbeliveable!!! :complain: Anyone out there with advice on how to go about approaching Land Rover for them to replace the engine for free!!!!!!!!!!
I don't believe it! My Freelander 1.8S petrol engine 'K' series has given up!! The water reservoir was empty and it just would not start. I've towed it to my nearest garage that deals in genuine land Rover parts. The engine has only done 36,200 miles and just gone over 3yrs back in February!! Unbeliveable!!! :complain: Anyone out there with advice on how to go about approaching Land Rover for them to replace the engine for free!!!!!!!!!!
Head gasket problems
Hello everyone out there. My 1999 Xei engine gave up at less than 30.000 miles and a week before the end of warranty at a local independant garage we had bought the car when it was 3 years old. it gave me no warning at all on the dashboard, the garage fixed the problem i paid a small amount for upgraded lotus parts(metal location pins apparantly) and the car has been fine since its been 2 yrs. Before reading the posts on this excellent site i had never heard of a problem with the gauges or temp sender has anyone ever retro fitted a beter temp Gauge and should i replace the temp sender for a new one. Any thoughts would be good.
Thanks Rob Page.
Hello everyone out there. My 1999 Xei engine gave up at less than 30.000 miles and a week before the end of warranty at a local independant garage we had bought the car when it was 3 years old. it gave me no warning at all on the dashboard, the garage fixed the problem i paid a small amount for upgraded lotus parts(metal location pins apparantly) and the car has been fine since its been 2 yrs. Before reading the posts on this excellent site i had never heard of a problem with the gauges or temp sender has anyone ever retro fitted a beter temp Gauge and should i replace the temp sender for a new one. Any thoughts would be good.
Thanks Rob Page.
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