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Hi LR owners
I'm hoping some of the UK members can help me. I'm a South African, living in Manchester and I'm planning to buy a 110 soon and drive back to Cape Town. (Too wet here - time to get back to the sun!) There's lots of preparation to be done, not least learning the ins and outs of the vehicle. Do any of you know where I can learn how to do basic repairs myself? Most basic mechanics courses seem to offer help with oil changing and tuning, but a trip across Africa requires a lot more knowledge than that. Any ideas? I would appreciate your help.
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(Pitty im married but you sound a lot like my Wife)

Why dont you rather go for a Series 3? If you can get one and have it rebuild by a Reputible company it would serve you as good as, if not better than, a 110.

The reasons for this.
1) Easyer to maintain, espesially electrical parts.
2) Spares - You will get spares for SIII anywhere in about every african country
3) Backup - There is a lot of people in Africa that can help you with any problem on a SIII, but I dont know if they would have the knowlige (and Equipment) for a 110.

Sorry 110 owners, you still got exceptional Landies, but believe me, in (Southern) Africa you will be better off with a Series 3 (Excluding South Africa and the big cities like Gabarone, Lusaka ect.)
 

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If you have some time on your hands, you could try and offer to work free of charge for an auto electrician and/or mechanic who specialises in LR vehicles, in return for some basic repairs. Just a thought.
 

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Moeras, seriously a SIII? I've backpacked on my own around Malawi, Zim, Uganda and Tanzania and have seen loads of 110's. (But the only lifts I ever got were from Toyota Landcruiser drivers!) I'm just not sure that I'd be able to find a trustworthy person to rebuild for me, so I think it'd be better to get a 110 that's pretty much ready. Am prepared to rehash the inside myself (bed, storage, etc) and sort out roof racks, etc, but kind of need the mechanics to be ready to roll.

A friend's recommended I investigate ex-MOD as their maintenance records are good. Does anyone have anything to add to this? And someone else has suggested I investigate ex-Camel Trophy vehicles, sold somewhere in Hampshire. I'm a bit sceptical of this - there's bound to be some bends and breaks, surely. I would appreciate some input on this, if anyone has time.

Disco, thanks for the suggestion of working for free. I'll check that one out.
 

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Go buy yourself a magazine by the name of Land Rover Owner International, get their office number, and ask them to send you a copy of ( i can`t remember the month ), but I will have a look for you, of the month where they discussed buying a Defender, they just about mention every single detail in obtaining a Defender, if you are South-African you will know what I mean when I say, "hulle ken van!!".

And you know what, I think all these guys has got a point about the series 3, as well as the 110, go out there, test drive the vehicles, check what you like, and buy it.

Me, I like my 110, no I LOVE my 110, it is a Td5, a brilliant engine, if you buy a pre- Td5 model, I think you should go for the Tdi. You also need to watch only 10 minutes of any Camel Trophy video, you will definitely want to buy one, but one for yourself to look at and to adore and to impress all your friends. They worked very hard! But I think too hard to drive over Africa.
Get a low mileage 110, preferably a hardtop, you can sleep inside and
you will have plenty of space to pack all your belongings!
First buy your Defender, get to know it inside out, and by that I mean, clean it, service it, everything, I also think that you should take the advice of working for free and learn a thing or two but first buy your Landy, any way,
"goed gaan"

Hein :drink1:
 

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You are, no doubt, begining to see that there will be lots of suggestions for you, all of which will be based largely on personal opinion (most suggestions are, aren't they?)

Where I think most of us can agree, is that you should buy a Land Rover. Anyone who frequents this bbs is bound to be a biased Land Rover lover, so don't expect to get to many other suggstions. Reminds me of the T shirt that says " I'd rather push my Land Rover, than ride in your Jeep" Obviously thought up by someone who has never pushed a Land Rover.

And now, for yet another biased opinion.

A LWB series truck looks pretty much like a Defender 110, and is equally easy to work on. Most any Series III is going to be a high milage example, despite actual or apparent condition. There are plenty of parts on a series III, which are NOT readily available. If you ultimately decide on a series III, buy the very best you can find. A completely restored series III will not be any more reliable than a good condition, well cared for 300 Tdi 110.
A long drive in a 110 is a horrificly long drive in a series III. If you teeth have no fillings, you butt, back, and kidneys will still protest. A leaf sprung series is much less forgiving than a coil sprung 110. Where road conditions are less than perfect, a 110 and a series can go only so fast, but when the road improves, the view of the series will quickly dissappear from the 110s rear view mirror.
As I said, the above is my opinion, shared by many, but as likely argued by others. I've had plenty of series trucks, short and long, in the past 32 years, but wouldn't trade my 110 for any of them. Much as I enjoy it, I have spent less time and money on my 110 in the past 4 years than I did on any 109 in one year.
 

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Thanks, Terry. There's no doubt that the vehicle I buy will be a Land Rover - probably a 110. Thanks for your info which reinforces my 'almost' decision.

Hein, thanks for your input too. I have bought 3 LR mags from time to time and have started buying them every month now, but don't recognise the article you refer to. If you do manage to find it, please could you let me know what issue and I will order it from the mag.

Thanks everyone for your input. Very useful. No doubt, I'll have more questions as time goes on.
 

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Magazine Issue We Talked About

HAVE a look at www.lro.co.uk of com? maar anyway, land rover owner international ,spring issue 6, 2004 and december issue nr 13, 2003

All the necessary stuff you need to know, the basics at least! Also on how to spot a bargain etc.

good luck, :drive:
 

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I am on route from England to South Africa and see many travelers and think your best bet is a 300 tdi . Be sure yo stop by on your way, i am in Amman , Jordan . I am also South African and working at the Landrover dealer in Amman. Working for free at a Landrover dealer sounds like a good idea. Have fun
 

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Thanks Hein. I'll find out about getting copies of those issues, or at least the articles.
Speedy, I'm glad you mentioned the 300. I have been wondering whether a 200 or 300 is best and whether there really is much in it? Amman isn't on the radar yet, but who knows. What I'd really love to do is to cross the Sahara (wars and storms permitting). There are problems everywhere and you can't really make definite plans until the last minute, but the Sahara appeals so much. Wars aside, the other problem is finding like-minded people who want to join me. Most of my friends prefer the luxury of flight, suitcases and hotels, so they think I'm mad. Anyway, first prize would be traverse the Sahara, West to East, making my way to East Africa. Ethiopia is also a must, but depending on how I can get through, I may have to go north from Kenya. If the Sahara's out because of lack of companions, then I'm going to do Morocco definitely and then may have to drive back through Spain and across Europe and back onto African soil via Egypt. Time is no object, so I'm not really bothered how long it takes. Wherever the wind blows me will be great.
But first, I must get the car. After all the tips and advice, I've pretty much decided on a 110 TDI 3-door, hard top, so am now looking for prospects in the UK with good mileage and condition. The TDI has been recommended over the TD5 because of ease of maintenance. Do any of you have any comments on this?
Thanks, all.
 

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Sounds like you are going to have great fun. Why not join a Land Rover Club as you will get good on-hand advice. I am a member of the Land Rover Owners Club here in S.A. and we have had technical days where basic bush repairs have been shown. Maybe there is something similar over there.

Get the vehicle (110 vs Series) YOU feel most comfortable and safest with because you need to depart with the least trepidation possible. Don't completely discount Moeras' advice. I have heard stories of series vehicles getting parts in the remotest villages and others of Defenders being towed in excess of 1000kms (by a Ford nog al) back to civilisation because electronics have packed up. One of our club members and his wife recently completed a round trip of 6 months from S.A to Ethopia and back in a 110 with only routine servicing (oil changes etc.)

Enjoy your vehicle hunting. :)
 
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