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Alrighty.......Might be looking at a Divorce......
Knowing I was a 1/2 quart short on the last oil change.....I went
to correct today........Found milky white on the oil cap and the
old dip stick looked.......spotty...and, it gained capacity.........
(glad I have yet to buy a lift...)
Understandably.....this roller coaster weather can create the
film.....but being a LR.....my guard is up!! Share thoughts and what
not......temps seam to be okay today while driving......

I'd be kool with it going bye-bye but my rusted under carriage says
NO to a small block swap and my shop is f'ing underwater with work
so free time is like...............HELLO?.......IS IT ME YOUR LOOKING
FOR?.....Ugh......Don't know what to do.......I can grab a BMW for
short cash right now and get a little something out of the D1 right
now at the same time...........thoughts???? Bob will never speak
to me again swapping for the BMW........but that's life, he's a car
dealer..............fix or swap??
 

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Bought my first BMW in '79 and have owned dozens in the passing decade. Have 3 now. Buying a BMW makes buying a Rover look like a good idea.

Water in the oil? Sounds like an intake gasket. NBD.
 

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Up to you bud, not like you can't do it again. I offed mine because it became too much. You've learned it, that's important for the future. I have to add, electrical and BMW is like oil and water. The insulation is the flimsiest in the industry, very easy to nick. I'm a GM guy, have been, always will be. Rover was my first Brit adventure and I'm going to buy again.
 

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Ummmm........I'd dump a small block over dealing with it.
Well known......my body is...........bad.
Investing is...............................bad.

I'll stroke it for now...........Not buying a V-Dub
unless it's split window....

Jist might be getting bitten by the LR 'standard'.....

Not happy.......
 

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Usually they don't go that way on head gaskets, take it on a longer drive and keep an eye on things
 

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I would let the oil settle (at least overnight) and then pull the drain plug. If you are getting coolant in the crack case it should settle to the bottom and come out first
Just thinking you probably don't wat to take it for much of a drive if ther is coolant in there.
I would suspect a intake gasket long before a head gasket from you description.

Maybe scout will lend you the Saturn for a while;)
 

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Once the engine runs the oil emulsifies. They call it "milkshake". The only way it will separate is to get it above water's boiling point.

You could drain it and then put a pressure tester on it and let it sit for a while. If you lose pressure and you get water out the drain plug, then you know.
 

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Usually they don't go that way on head gaskets,
Yeah- the rocker shaft feed hole is pretty far away.

Have you looked at the plugs? I have never seen it, but I have heard of cracks between the valves causing seepage when turned off that drain down, past the rings and into the crankcase. That would be another test- pressurize it and let it sit, then crank with the plugs out.
 

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I believe in Big Foot.
 

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You should aren't you two related?
 

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Hey Hey.......I like the idea of borrowing 'Scout's Fantastic Plastic!!:boobies:

Maybe I'm just weirding out about it.......I'll be keeping an eye on it....drove
it over 2 hours on Friday, a solid hour yesterday....have yet to look under the
hood today.....but I will. Thank's for the input!

I've had a BMW in the past, no issues.....the one I can grab fast & cheap has
an electrical/fuse box issue....periodical, the issue has been identified but
no one down there has the smarts or interest to make the repair.......perhaps
another adoption opportunity.....wish I had some free time..:az:
 

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I have relatives in Oh HI Oh......

Fantastic is a BMW with an electrical/fuse box issue that hasn't been found - good luck with THAT! I'd bet $10,000 it has nothing to do with the fuse box, that's way too frig'n obvious.

....probably wouldn't get the Satty back either.
 

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Hey Hey.......I like the idea of borrowing 'Scout's Fantastic Plastic!!:boobies:

Maybe I'm just weirding out about it.......I'll be keeping an eye on it....drove
it over 2 hours on Friday, a solid hour yesterday....have yet to look under the
hood today.....but I will. Thank's for the input!

I've had a BMW in the past, no issues.....the one I can grab fast & cheap has
an electrical/fuse box issue....periodical, the issue has been identified but
no one down there has the smarts or interest to make the repair.......perhaps
another adoption opportunity.....wish I had some free time..:az:
The 90's and earlier BMW's weren't to bad. The E39 3 Series was one of their best. The E46 started getting silly. The new one's are off the charts ridiculous to work on.

Bought my wife an '04 3 Series. At about 60K the starter went. I had 23 hours labor in R&R on the starter, just to replace a $30 solenoid. That's in a shop, on a lift.
 

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I have relatives in Oh HI Oh......

Fantastic is a BMW with an electrical/fuse box issue that hasn't been found - good luck with THAT! I'd bet $10,000 it has nothing to do with the fuse box, that's way too frig'n obvious.

....probably wouldn't get the Satty back either.

Issue 'was' found and it's poor/bad connections in the box.
I probably won't pick it up, but I am still going to go look
at it.......Same little crap lot I grabbed the Rover from, owners
a good dude, pretty honest, they don't twist wrenches
there.....he wanted to start feeding me cars to work on in
my 'spare' time.....LOL! I said 'Bob, that's the one thing I don't
have is time'....He's amazed the Super Model is rolling as well
as it has and how many miles I've put on it....I drive by his place
at least once a week.....mehh, we'll see. Need to finish up and
pull my crack head in for a looksy!
 

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Once the engine runs the oil emulsifies. They call it "milkshake". The only way it will separate is to get it above water's boiling point.

You could drain it and then put a pressure tester on it and let it sit for a while. If you lose pressure and you get water out the drain plug, then you know.
If its gone "milkshake" it's a done deal. Sure not going to hold together with 3 hours of driving
 

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I'm leaning towards this crazy weather as the issue for now.
The slime that's showing up is on the threads of the fill
cap....only there, not up inside, not on the dip stick shaft
itself. I did go to the car wash Friday as well......dunno.

I'll just keep an eye on it....Drove it bright and early this
AM bringing Jr. to school.....no issues..
 

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The 90's and earlier BMW's weren't to bad. The E39 3 Series was one of their best. The E46 started getting silly.
The one I had years ago was an 87ish 325......Nothing high end..
The one on the lot I believe is a E39, can't be positive though, too
DANG COLD...to go kick tires!!!
 

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Getting even with the Supermodel......

So, to show her I was unhappy with her foaming at
the mouth......I took her down to look at her possible
new room mate....(talk about evil)....it's a 99....if I
can't get it for 500 or less, no deal.....


Then after that.....(she probably thought we were going for
a little trail ride...heeheehee).....Due to this wacky winter, I
took her out to my secret wood pile stash and stacked her
deep....TWICE!!....I did take it easy on her though and only grabbed
smalls....who wants to split wood in mid March?


Hopefully she got the message!
 

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That's an E46. For the most part not too bad. But there are a few things that will make you question why you bought it. Like the starter thing I wrote about.

A few years ago, my wife's intermittent wipers stopped intermittenting. Now, on most cars, the driver can decide how much intermittent he wants. But BMW figures their drivers shouldn't be burdened by such a deleterious task. So theirs is wired into a rain sensor. It detects droplets on the windshield via a sensor built into the mirror. Turns out it's a common failure item and used one's go for not much less than new one's. The part is $900.

I guarantee it needs lower control arms. They eat them up quickly. It's a one-piece unit with the ball joint and pivot bushing. Grab the tire while parked and try to roll it back and forth. You'll feel the play. It will also need fuel pumps. They last about 50K/mi. Go with no warning. It's a two piece unit, one has the pump, the other has the pickup- it's a split tank. Easy fix though- under the back seat. They also have a system like the Rover SAI that the pumps go bad pretty regularly. If you get the code, just put tape over the SES light.

If it's AWD, leave it where it is.
 

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If its gone "milkshake" it's a done deal. Sure not going to hold together with 3 hours of driving
That's one of the best reasons to use an oil like Rotella. We have had more than a few of our Ford diesels either lose an EGR cooler and fill the crankcase with water, or stick an injector and fill it with fuel, and no related engine failures. We just had one that drained out 23 quarts. It only holds 15 quarts of oil.
 
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