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Hi,

I test drove a 2007 LR3, 95,000 miles with the HD today and I loved it. It felt so solid driving, the space, the styling..I just really enjoyed the car. The problem is that I have expensive taste with an non-expensive income. My husband is pretty good with cars..does almost all the maintenance and repair on his 71 VW bus and my current Saab 9-3. He tells me to do what makes me happy, but I am worried if I purchase this vehicle that we will be in over our heads financially with repairs. Can anyone help me decide if I should buy this car?


Here is the run down he gave me
"I haven't had many issues with it since i purchased it, a couple of bigger ticket items at first, leaking transmission pan (its plastic and apparently common) it was replaced and serviced by the dealership, the rear AC stopped working and i had to have one of the ac lines replaced (common problem), also by the dealership. and i've had it serviced by the dealership since ive owned it. i've replaced the front lower control arms and upgraded the bushings,(common problem) at the same time i did front rotors and pads. i replaced the hood latch switch, and brake light switch (both common items) and recently i rebuilt the air compressor and replaced the silica gel in the air dryer (common problems, should give the compressor a few more years of life before needing replacement) and at the same time i did rear rotors and pads."

Is there anything I should be worried about? Is the tranny going to blow? Head Gasket? Can you predict these things? If we have the little computer reader thing with it (which owner has to sell)...will that help my husband handle repairs cheaper?

I know the gas mileage stinks and having a sedan, I will have to get used to it. I just need the space and I like to visually and aesthetically enjoy my cars and I want to feel like my kids are safe. It felt so solid to me. Are these known for above normal safety? If so, then, the money doesn't matter to me and I'm in..but if safety is no different than any cheaper SUV, then the money does matter.

Please help!!
 

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I would say that those repairs are not surprising but not all of them were "common issues" as reported. Specifically the tranny and the AC are not that common of issues. The rest are. That said, the LR3 is indeed a tank. Probably means that it's indeed a very safe vehicle. It's also thirsty and requires more maintenance than other vehicles due to its complexity. Yes, an IIDTool will help (if that is the diag tool the seller has) but it will still be more expensive than say, a Toyota or a Lexus GX.

I never recommend an LR3 to anyone who isn't going to off-road it.
 

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I never recommend an LR3 to anyone who isn't going to off-road it.
Although I am more of a disco 2 fanatic, I see my fair share of LR3s and would consider them reasonably reliable, I will agree that yes repairs will be more than the average vehicle it is not your average vehicle. As for "offroad" yes they are quite capable they are far from being a "purpose build serious off-road machine. The majority of these truck never have and never will touch an un paved road.
If your husband is used to working on goofy cars (like your current. Saab) he should be fairly accustomed to mechanical beat downs ;)

Major drivetrain, engine transmission etc. Are usually quite reliable .

Insist on all maintenance records if they can't produce them walk away. Don't go by what he says, remember he is trying to unload it!
Insist on a thorough pre purchase inspection by a independent Land Rover specialist. Ask other local Land Rover owners who they know, use, trust.
 

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I will agree that it is kind of a waste to own a very capable 4wd vehicle and not ever use it. Extra weight, maintenance and overall cost of a vehicle purchased for its "status" and not its ability.
You are obviously a LR3 owner and proud of it. Good to hear! My next daily driver will likely be a LR3. I will keep my Disco for real offroad stuff;)
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No need to use curse and 4 letter words (Jeep, Hummer etc.) ;)

Travel safe
 

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Bwahahahaha!!!

You are obviously a LR3 owner and proud of it. Good to hear! My next daily driver will likely be a LR3. I will keep my Disco for real offroad stuff;)
NOW I get it, Redtruck. I didn't notice in your signature line(s) before that you don't have an LR3. You are one of those cats who are blindly loyal to the D2 and live in a state of denial about the LR3's superiority.

It's cool...I totally get that. The D2 is more modifiable and that gives an argument merit for what platform can be built into a serious rock crawler or expedition vehicle.

...but stock v stock, and even allowing some mods (2" lift for a Disco and rod-mod or electronic tool "lift" for the LR3) the latter wins in every off-road scenario.

Don't take my word for it, go wheel one. I'm sure you have a buddy that has an LR3. Switch rides with him on a trail sometime. You'll see.

Cheers,
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I don't understand why people think someone sitting in front of a computer possibly a world away can give them proper advice on a large purchase without knowing their entire financial situation, knowing their mechanical abilities, knowing their housing situation (place to work on car, proper tools, etc) and whatever else one needs to know to pat them on the back and say, "yes, you are ready to own this vehicle."

I could recommend a Toyota to you and the transmission could fall out the bottom the day after purchase. I could recommend the most unreliable vehicle and it could be problem free for 100,000 miles. There's no way to know if the vehicle you're looking at will be a good one or a problematic one. You need to be real with yourself and your financial situation and make the decision based on that. If you're not financially ready to put thousands of dollars into repairs (because there are several known problem areas that can easily be in the thousands to repair) then you're not ready for the LR3.

Having expensive taste is fine, but you have to be honest with yourself and decide if you're ready to take it on at this point in your life. The worst thing you can do, in my opinion, is to buy a make and model of vehicle with a history of expensive problems and HOPE for the best. That'll come back to bite you.

I owned an '05 LR3 with the HD package and it was amazing. It was a one owner originally sold by the LR dealership I bought it from. Low mileage and everything was done at the dealership. Even wipers, bulbs, and tires were done through the dealership. I had 39 pages of service history. If the owner was taking a trip, it went to the dealership for a pre-trip inspection. Crazy documentation so I knew everything about the vehicle. It turned out to be a zero problem LR3 that never saw the inside of a service bay during my ownership (I did my own maintenance). My wife loved it, too. She still talks about it and she's about as far from being a 'car person' as one could be.

If you're dead set on getting the LR3, have it inspected by a LR shop. That's key. I don't care how good the mechanic around the corner is, even if he/she is family. Take it to a LR shop. They need to have the proper diagnostic tool to check all the ECUs in the vehicle, and there are a bunch. They need to know what to look for as every vehicle has known items to check.

One last thing most people don't think about. If you end up with an LR3 with the cold weather package (heated windscreen, heated rear seats, heated wiper jets), make sure you have glass coverage on your insurance (or add it). I pay about $6 every six months for glass coverage through State Farm. The heated windscreen is well north of $1,000 if it needs to be replaced. The one on my Range Rover was $1,750 after install. Cost me exactly $0.


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Colin,

I think the only reason people a world away are offering advice...is because they were asked (by the OP)...
I understand people responding with good info, heck I did the same. There are just a ton of threads people start asking the same thing. If you have to ask someone if you should take the chance on a vehicle, you're basically just trying to get confirmation of your decision to buy. And if that's the case, just buy the darn vehicle. Strangers can't accurately tell you that you're good to go on owning a Land Rover. It's just ridiculous.

Asking about problems certain models may have and what to look for is one thing, but asking if I should buy a vehicle that I can't afford and hoping for the best is just crazy.


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Totally agree, Colin, I don't use Yelp or Trip Advisor or any of that crap for the same reason. I don't need strangers' opinions about subjective things. Even better is when a poster asks what COLOR vehicle they should buy!!

"Hey, Colin, what do I want for lunch today?"
 

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I love my LR3 and its not the type of vehicle to leave you stranded but it does demand attention.

The rewards happen off road and I disagree that its not a serious off road machine. Mine will tackle obstacles that would leave my 4x4 Quadradrive Jeep recklessly spinning tires.

If you don't off road or live where it snows often then i'd suggest you look at the Lexus GX470. It falls behind the LR3 off road but makes better power,better MPG, more reliable, just as spacious inside, etc. IMO it does feel a bit sterile/boring though.

IMO the LR3 is an awesome machine but owning one without going off road doesn't make much sense to me.

If you go with the LR3 you'll need diagnostic tools(for your husband). I actually think the computers make them easier to work on. Funny sound/check engine light? The scan tool pretty much tells you exactly what is going on vs the old days of actually listening/guessing.

People are intimidated by them and shops get rich off of this but something i've learned from owning/wrenching on BMW's.... Its just nuts and bolts.
 

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Buy want you want. It's your money and your life.
LR3's are quire reliable. We have two 05's V8' SE's now.

Common issues.
1. Leaking sun roof due to rotted lines by foot well, clogged lines by sun roof or A & B pillar holes that need to be sealed. Giving you electrical issues and remote door locking issues. Get that sorted ASAP.
2. Clunk in front suspension due to worn bushings in Lower Control Arms. CHECK FOR THIS
3. Rear Diff bearings WEAR noise due to internal lubrication and other issues.
4. Hood sensor failing, setting off alarm.
5. Warped Cowl letting water in through cabin filter into electrical wires. Have it replaced.


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MrWesson's post is written as if it came directly from me.

I drove lots of other vehicles before buying the LR3 (I'd ordered it, and was waiting for it) and the Gx470 was one on the short list. Perfectly good SUV with 4WD...just wasn't exciting...but if I needed a 4WD and was not doing any real off-roading it would be on the top of the list.

Ditto on the LR3 comments. Maintenance required. Main benefit is off-roading. Why put up with one if you aren't going to do the other?
 

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There are times when I actually need decent off road ability for work, but very rarely for pleasure.
But owning my LR3 isn't all about whether it's 'worth it'. Or indeed that you're some kind of fool if you own one and don't off road!
It's also about having a vehicle with some style. Sure, the Gx470 may be a very efficient vehicle. Does nothing for me though. I always, always take a second glance at any LR3 I see. Gx470? Barely take the first look.
I've probably been fairly fortunate with my LR3, but also recognise that there is a certain joie de vivre about driving around in one.
Appreciate everyone offers advice sincerely, but think it's too easy to forget that there's something different about owning a Land Rover.
I'd agree with Safari Dave: it's your money, your life!
And you can't put a value on the joie de vivre!
 

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Apart from a few comments, most did indeed.
I had meant to make an observation rather than a criticism.
And sadly my attempt at sounding even vaguely sophisticated didn't work too well: the term I used was 'joie de vivre'. The term I should have used is 'Je ne sais quoi'.
That's what the Land Rover has in spades.
 

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I'd say just avoiding the use of French is a good philosophy.

Owning a Land Rover is definitely cool and they are awesome rides...but they are not for anyone "limping in" to the decision, which is what I sensed from the OP.
 

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Lr3s are great vehicles, fun to drive on and off road comfortably. That being said, prepare to pay for the maintenance. I had a leak coming from a sensor on the transfer case. The seal had to be replaced resulting in 1000$ repair because they had to drop everything. If the compressor hasn't been replaced yet, expect to do this regardless of if it has been rebuilt. Thats something that can easily be done at home, but will cost about 600$ for the hitachi compressor. There is a common issue with a break switch going out and throwing tons of faults. Cheap fix, but you have to know how to do it because it isn't a normal plug. Overall all it is a great car, but expect to replace multiple things at once because it seems like everything fails at the same time lol. After you replace things, you usually don't have to do anything for a while besides oil changes etc. I have a 2008 HSE, and my Grandfather has a 2008 SE, we both love the vehicles and wouldn't trade them for the world. Although 2008 seems to be the best year to get, I would not get anything older than a 2007. Just my two cents. Good luck with your purchase!
 

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Probably simply late to the party on this one, but having bought a used '06 LR3 SE recently, I figured I could offer some feedback.

Granted, not every used vehicle purchase is going to be comparable, but I felt like the dealer I worked with provided me some great insight and advice before I decided to run off with Abe (as I've come to call him).

The dealer painted a picture that these vehicles will take very good care of you so long as you take care of them. They aren't Toyotas and will require regular TLC, especially even more so given that you are looking at a used vehicle. In my case, he said to expect to drop at least $1000/year in maintenance/repairs (noting that some years may be significantly less than that, and some more).

Having had Abe for about 7ish months, I have been exceptionally happy with him. He hasn't been without issues (most of which are more due to the fact that its 10+ year old vehicle and not so much LR specific)...

This vehicle is a dream to drive, at least in comparison to my 2009 Dodge Nitro. I absolutely hated driving before, I love it now and I feel so much safer in it than any other car I've driven. In my case, the car was so well taken care of, I can't tell you the number of folks who have assumed I actually went out and bought a brand-new Landrover.

What particularly sold me was the dealer and what felt like genuine honesty and the fact that my car was a single-owner vehicle with extensive, detailed Carfax history (like seriously, every tweak, fix and calibration was meticulously documented by the technicians that serviced it). All of the big fixes had already been addressed with the exception of any air suspension issues - I anticipate I'll have to deal with that at some point in the future.

At the end of the day, I imagine you will be very happy with the LR3 in terms of its ride and capabilities with the caveat of the potential financial burdens that come with used car ownership :)

PS: I am actually dropping almost a grand on Abe today in order to replace some tire rods (anticipated) and fix an issue with the thermostat (unexpected, but also probably caused by myself when I attempted to flush/refill coolant months ago).
 
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