Hello again! Back to the fold after hurting myself at work and selling the P38 with slip liner, then wife trades her Disco 1 after 14 yrs., I then retired and just traded my F150 4X4, which decently got me thru this last winter, on a 2011 LR4 HSE in Black. Hope I may return and try to help as I did in the past and get answers on my new purchase. Still ASE Certified and 49 yrs. of automotive experience and 15 yrs. LR experience.