I just used some on my Altima. Hit 100K so I replaced all fluids and put some in with the ATF. Didn't really do it to try and fix a problem, but it does seem to shift a little smoother even on harder accelerations. Some will call it snake oil or just trying to cover up problems, but I do use their oil stabilizer and upper cylinder lubricant/fuel additive as well. You will get stories on both sides of the spectrum of it destroying what ever it touches and being a miracle additive. It's worked for me so far and I have been using lucas oil ____ in all my vehicles. And yes my landrover sounds quieter with the stabilizer in everything.:beer:

 

I picked up a bottle to toss in the saab when I change the fluid in the tranny tomorrow. Nothing wrong with it either but I figure it can't hurt.

 

Let me know how it shifts. My Tranny is also good but, with the miles on my Rover I would like to start on it sooner than later. My Tappit noise is gone after the Lucas oil stabilizer was put on.

 

Bob's the Oil Guy is a group of retired oil engineers. They have a great forum discussing all oil issues, many particpants from the oil industry community. Click this to find the tests and result for Lucas Oil Stabilzier.

What about Additives?

James

 

If you go there realize that there is some good info there but his tests are EXTREMELY flawed in the case of the lucas oil and how it is tested. And this will probably get the whole debate started all over again.

 

Bob and his forum are extremely easy to communicate with and very well respected (elsewhere if not here). Why not drop them a line? Their training and expertise are undeniable and they are very friendly.

In any event, my team has been displeased with the use of these magic elixers. We tried the Lucas stabilizer the first 20 minutes of a new engine and were unhappy with the resultant "milk shake".

Leave this type of stuff for ArmyRover to test out for you. He has defining forces on his side.

James

 

Was I supposed to learn something on that link lol.

Dave

I'll report my findings for you on friday. I'll be doing the change tomorrow and after I get home on friday I'll have 50 miles on it city/highway so I can give you a fairly accurate description of what I see hear and feel.

 

Any new oil will make gear changes, etc, better. So it would be impossible to tell if it was the additive or not. You should put in the new oil and drive it for a week or so and then add the additive and see if it makes a difference.

My criteria for a good oil has nothing to do with whether it stops leaks or not. Does it mean that it does not flow as well if it stops the leak

 

My criteria for a good oil has nothing to do with whether it stops leaks or not. Does it mean that it does not flow as well if it stops the leak

Actually the additive was added to old fluid in all 3 cases.

Ian I would add to your criteria if it's supposed to help bring back old seals to stop small leaks That is one of the things it advertises on the bottle afterall.

 

I drove with 20/50 for a week without the Lucas and the tapping was there. I put the Lucas in today after an oil change 4 days ago and a soon as I drove out of the garage the Tapping was gone. I have not driven very far with it yet, but by Sunday I will know if it works.

Now, I just curious about the Lucas Transmission Fix.

 

Like I was saying before, I wasn't trying to start the argument over. Dave asked if anyone used it I said yes and have been happy with the results, smoother shifting etc. and yes it may have been the new fluid as well.

As far as bob the oil guys things being flawed it is based on the fact he did not add the stabilizer to the scheffers only to the one that already foamed. And when he added the stabilizer to the one that foamed he then turned up the speed and said it was due to the stabilizer. When in all reality it was most likely due to the increase in speed and the oil that was already shown to foam. If the Scheffers foamed at the same speed with the stabilizer it would have shown that the lucas oil caused it. It wasn't tested at both speeds in both oils with and without the stabilizer. I know they were trying to illustrate a point, but if the tests are flawed then so are the results. (I can be more specific as needed as unfortunately I have had to do way to many studies)

As said before plenty of people have used it and like it (that would include me), and there are those that have used it and don't like it, and those that don't like it on principle. Just don't take everything at face value because someone is the oil guy. Good information on the site just a very poorly done study in order to show the superiority of the schefer oil. :drive:

 

James,
When armyrover is talking about adding the additive to "old fluid in all 3 cases", he was talking about his uses in his vehicles in response to Ian's commenting that new fluids will do the same thing.

Maybe take your own advice and read it again slowly (possibly with someone helping you.)

 

Thanks. It never occurred to me that that anyone would do that..so it passed right over me.

Do you just dump it into dirty oil too?

James

 

Hello,

I use a bottle of Lucas Tranny fix in my '93 lwb w/ 71,600miles. I drain the tranny (out of pan ~5 qts or so) every 6,000 and add a bottle of Lucas. Also i use the Lucas Power Steering Fluid to give it a nice coating to the PS and use a bottle of Lucas oil stablizer (Heavy Duty)every oil change.

I just topped off my 2001 X5 3.0i w/ Lucas Power Steering Fluid and topped off the oil w/ Lucas Synthetic Oil Stabilizer (thinner for the newer engines) because i just bought the bimmer and did not know which oil they used last (i do not like mixing oils). The bimmers can take a 0w/40 Mobil or 5w/30 BMW oil (made in germany version).

 

I have added some to old oil once or twice but I usually put it in when I change the fluid

 

Ah throwin out the racism card:clap:. That should work well:lol:. Besides I think I saw an ad recently for french military assault rifles: "Almost new, never been fired, dropped once". Anyways as stated before and back to OP, the stuff seems to work well for me, and I've tried a few of there products

 

I am not French. Of course, I very much enjoy France (they sure know how to live here!).

There are many foreign nationals in our area, (even Americans). A few have and do make billions selling "used" arms for the US and other countries. Surely you cannot be unaware that the US provides a major part of the weaponry to the world, even to the enemies it sends its soldiers to fight. It is an important export industry.

One of the international legal criteria of that industry is that a weapon be classified as "used"...so someone has to make that so. I guess you can say that France "drops" their weapons, as does Russia, the UK and most of all, the US. Are you fellas that sheltered from how it all works and who is doing it? :confused When inventories build up too much, a war happens...preferably a long drawn-out police action.

I am unfamiliar with the psyche of those who feel themselves alone and threatened. However, I do know something about France. It was the only country in the world that sent money, ships and men to die for the American Revolution. In fact, the very symbol of America, the Statue of Liberty, was made in France as a gift from the French people to the American people. If you want to denigrate Frenchmen, demean them, lie about them..be my guest! Your remarks are funny and say so much about you. May I pass them around?

James

 

Since your such and intellectual I would have figured you knew being french is a nationality not a race. I guess I gave you to much credit.

Yes I add oil to dirty oil to if it needs toping off during the 3,000 miles between an oil change. I suppose if your 1/2 a quart low you empty all the oil change the filter and top off with all fresh oil right?

Never topped off power steering fluid, brake fluid, transmission fluid or coolant right? You always flush it first I'm sure to get out all the old oil.

I'm in awe, I bet you even disassemble your u joints and clean all the old grease before re-lubing them.


Follow up Post:

Dave I added the lucas when I changed the tranny fluid, and I took it for a short drive 20 miles. She took off and shifted just like she had before smooth and easy. I didn't notice any improvements nor did I notice any degradation in performance either. This is her second fluid change since I got her 8K miles ago. The fluid was dirty when I got her so I decided to change her twice 5k apart to get as much of the old fluid out as I could.

So no noticeable improvements, and just for the bob the oiled up guy I checked the dipstick on my return to find no signs of air bubbles on the dipstick.

I'll update tomorrow after a longer drive.

 

Since your such and intellectual

Thank you, I am flattered but I have never made any claim to that description. I prefer hobby mechanic. Will that do?

I would have figured you knew being french is a nationality not a race. I guess I gave you to much credit.

My God, you have cut me to the quick! Honestly, I wanted to refer to you as xenophobic jingoist (far more accurate) but I thought that would have you running for a dictionary.

Yes I add oil to dirty oil to if it needs toping off during the 3,000 miles between an oil change. I suppose if your 1/2 a quart low you empty all the oil change the filter and top off with all fresh oil right?

Heavens no! I add 1/2 litre of oil. You add 1/2 quart of something called Lucas Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer.

James

P.S. Any idea why you are losing oil that fast? I am sure we can help.

 

Thanks Army! Looking forward to reading more about the Tranny fix experience.
My tappets started again today nice and loud. I heard you need to drive at least 100 miles to really notice the sound change with the Lucas Oil stabilizer. I'm going to wait. But also my Rover takes 7 qts of Oil. So now it has 6 qts of 20/50 and 1 qt of Lucas. On the Lucas bottle it says you need 1 qt of Lucas for 4 qts of oil. So I guess I needed 1.5 of Lucas...? Ja! Can it really make that much of a difference? When I put the Lucas in it yesterday It stopped the noise and the car ran great.
Tomorrow is another day

 

screw it switch to straight 50w valovaline racing oil


I'm kidding I'm kidding I joke I joke maybe....

 

Actually I have never added Lucas Heavy Duty oil stabilizer, I used the power steering additive. Hence the power steering statements in the post.

Don't need the help on the oil leak I know where they all are I consider them low cost rust proofing.

Don't worry if you use a word I don't understand, I'll google it, that's much faster. As I'm sure you did to come up with those words yourself.

As for describing me as a xenophobic jingoist, your partially correct although only about 50%.

Yes I do have a intense dislike for the french army, I found them to be lazy, disrespectful, under-trained and unprofessional. Frankly they were quite useless. That dislike however is not intense nor irrational. As it is defined.

As for the extreme patriot part your damn right, and proud of it. Once again half right though as I don't care about a aggressive foreign policy, I'm a Soldier, I don't make policy, I just make it happen.

 

Hey Army, that's funny! I'm going to drive it till my engine dies and I asked my LR mechanic to put in a 6 cylinder engine, Montero or Trooper what ever works that's more economical or even a diesel, he said he can modify one or we'll have some fun trying it out. He wants to try out a TDI type.

Anyway my Rover is not loosing oil. I might have the only rover that does not leak a thing, ever. It used to belong to an LR mechanic. My old 88 RRC used leak everything and it liked it.

 

Dave go diesel you know you want to(peer pressure peer pressure) the part that sucks with going diesel though is the cost...





France was also payed back in spades in WWII for their earlier contributions. Perhaps you remember D-Day and the invasion where the U.S.A sent men, boats and materials to liberate france?

So does this have anything to do with lucas oil additives?

 

How dare you guys start an argument without me being involved. Now for all the things I could say about the American war machine. But then again I find the French arrogant. I also do not care whether people waste their money on additives. So I will just sit back and watch others argue.

 

I was about to ask him if he was you:lol:


I would say something about the Aussie Army but I can't I loved working with those crazy fockers.:beer:

 

Army, of course I would like a Diesel it would be a dream, but I don't think it's cost effective for me right now. He has an old diesel engine, but it's a 4 cylinder it would be to slow for the RRC.
Hey, my LR Mechanic told me not to use the Lucas Tranny Fix, he doesn't like it.

 

He has an old diesel engine, but it's a 4 cylinder it would be to slow for the RRC.
Hey, my LR Mechanic told me not to use the Lucas Tranny Fix, he doesn't like it.

Is your RRC fast now? lol. I would love to do it to but like I said before cost would suck.

On the drive to work today I still noted no difference in the shifting of the tranny. No improvement or degradation of shifting. I did do .3 mpg better according to the trip computer though I think the traffic was lighter today, lol.

 

Lucas

Here is the site and has all the info you need (spec sheets and etc). I have added the 80/90 gear oil to my front and rear diff's. Everyone has there fav's...like beer:beer:! I use the Lucas products as more of a preventative measure then to fix something.

 

with a couple of hundred miles on the lucas trans additive I have noticed no difference in shifting at this point. Mileage is up 4 tenths of a mpg, I attribute that to the tune up though.

So in my application with this no better no worse.

 

i put that in mine because i get a hard/abrupt jump into reverse. the stuff is super thick!!! I noticed it seemed to jump even More Abruptly with the Lucas additive. when i drained it and refilled it next time i have found it shifts softer and less abrupt/jumpy once the oil has warmed up and is thinner. so i think the product is targeted at fixing transmission slips, if this is your problem i know it works for that because i used it in my moms explorer and it did the trick, but with my rangie , the problem was not a slip , but a jumpy shift into reverse... and the lucas made that problem worse.

 

My LR Mechanic said not to use it. He thinks it's to thick.